First Problem With my 370Z

Chuck33079

What's the harm in letting someone else take a look at it? Your dealership has been completely unable to solve your problem. A second opinion never killed anyone.

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ImportConvert

I'll have it done, but I have all aftermarket parts...at the other service managers suggestion...that won't go over the best.

Chuck33079

Other than interior wear and the brakes, what's wrong with it that is a Nissan issue? The other things you mentioned are either bad luck or, in the case of the exhaust, shoddy workmanship. Why not throw a case of beer at someone at a muffler shop to get the hangars fixed?

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ImportConvert

I guess the wreck had me on the fence. Now this brake issue is really getting at me. The car never really "sang" to me. Sure, I learned to drive a front heavy sports car, and acceleration is more than plenty, and it looks great, but 24mpg highway for this level of speed is fail, the thin paint has me worried about long term wear and looks, I guess its just one of those cars that you're like "if someone totalled my car today and i wasnt hurt, I'd not yell or be mad so long as I got my $." You know? It was always kindof "well...ok" and niw its in the shop more and more for brakes, and that has made a car I felt "ok I guess" about into a car I don't much enjoy. That and a gear box that grinds every now and then on cold days and is hard as hell to shift when I drive it for the first time after a rain (wtf...why?) I use mt-85 redline fluid in it, fwiw. I dunno, its just not a car I love, and its dicked up now, and id rather dump it than try to care sums it up best.

Chuck33079

Brake pads and rotors being aftermarket should not be an issue since they're wear items. You've got all the paperwork from the same thing happening with stock parts. Might as well let them take a look. Maybe a fresh set of eyes on it will help.

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red2010z

I told myself the same thing. I had a super low mile 350Z I got for a outstanding deal. I totaled that one (Not my fault) and I said I'll give the 370Z a try. But I will admit if I lose this one I will stick to a cheaper reliable car IE Honda.

I am getting to that age where speeds and looks don't mean much to me nomore.

Now I have no regrets getting the 370Z beside the horrible gas milage, and the high oil temps. But I guess I am just getting out of the phase.

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ImportConvert

See, I've literally never seen more than 220*F oil temps. Part of the reason I went with the 2012 was the oil cooler. I had no clue that the brakes would **** the bed every few thousand miles.

My brake-fluid is a bit dark, but not burn. Looks like 1000 mile old motor-oil on a new vehicle without blow-by issues.

roy'sz

it doesn't matter how hot your engine oil has gotten. You can hard cycle the brakes a couple of times and park it and whala...warped rotors.

Here is a little tip I learnt when I first got my Z. I got it up to 140 on a back country straight line road, when coming to a panic stop it worked great the first time. After driving around for a couple of minutes with no brake use at about 45 I went back to the same road again. I got up to almost 145 and panic stopped again. When I hit about 50 it started to fade on me a little bit. It was that point in time that I was downshifting and blew through a couple of stop signs. My point is this, when you notice that brake fade coming in, that is your WARNING that any more braking after this is the point in which you are going to be depositing brake material onto the rotor and it will cause glazing and/or warping.

I drove the car for about 30 minutes with no braking at 75mph. Since I didn't park the brakes with the brakes that hot or near so, I haven't had any problems with warping or anything of that nature.

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Only had two cars that would fade on the first stop. A 1995 Trans AM. It went 170K miles on stock rotors. A 1988 mustang GT. I replaced the rotors once just because I wanted to when I was doing the build, and never again.

My 2001 WS6 would have brake-fade after the first few stops from 80 or so.
It warped the rotors once at around 80K miles, and never again during my ownership (sold at 150K miles).

My 370Z has dicked up the rotors and/or pads 4 times in 22,000 miles, but never any brake fade. Just flat-out suck with no warning.

The more and more I read about the BRZ, the more and more I feel like an STi version would be THE car for me. I don't care so much about power, but 20-30whp more than the "regular" BRZ would make it nicer. Think S2000. Everything I read leads me to think the BRZ is like a Corvette...if it were lighter and had better communication with the driver, and less power/grip so you could play more with it on the street. In a 'vette, if you are going fast enough to actually have fun on the street, you're being totally irresponsible and stupid. My a 370Z and "slower", you can have quite a bit of fun without risking any more than your own hide and some scratches on a guard-rail unless you're an idiot. That's what I like. Having a car I can push a bit on the street without acting a total fool. Mind you not in town redlight to redlight, but rather, lazy afternoon drives down a country road.

ImportConvert

To me, it's just about joy. This 370Z just gives me a headache every time I look at it. "What next?" "Is this **** fixed yet?" those are the kinds of things I think when I see it. **** that. I buy new cars as toys/luxury purchases. They aren't supposed to be a downer. This one is.

122554

I just wanted to add that to anyone who thinks rotors don't warp, it's happened to me. Spirited driving on a country road, lots of braking, come around a turn and the fire department is flushing a hydrant onto the road. As soon as the water hit the brakes, they instantly warped!

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kenchan

lazy-ish sprited early am drive down a country road is my 370Z.

asdfsammich

This thread confuses me.

So, if you scrape the deposits off the rotors, and proceed to smoke the stuff, the BRZ turns into a Vette?





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ImportConvert

From what I can tell, much. The 370z is floppy and fat compared to my vette. The brz won't be a rocket, even with the STI version, but it should feel more telepathic. The 370z is dog slow to me, and it doesn't matter. Speed in a straight line has meant less and less over time to me. Telepathic driving input and feel and reliability have become more meaningful.

In short, the 370z never felt good. The interior was just nice for the market segment, but its performance in the corners has always.left me feeling meh. The brakes are the last straw in a long list of..."is this a rwd altima?" Thoughts I have been feeling for the last year. The smushy steering.g responses (I feel like I'm on a bike, the way it rolls when you give any Sharp inputs) and. The horribly noisy power steering when pushed in corners or quick transitions are just sad.

I guess it might be honest to say that I never liked this compromise car. The brakes are just what have finally made me throw up in my mouth enough to act. I'll wait and see if the brz STI is all I hope it is, but regardless, I'm dumping my 370 before 3/36 is done. It's just not a keeper.

Cuban Z

It's obvious you don't love this car and that's just fine. You should just get rid of it if you have the means to do so. I've been catching your posts here and there since you got the car and I've thought this from the beginning. If you're a car guy (which I'm guessing you are) then find something you really love, be it old or new, and enjoy it. Good luck man.

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