First Problem With my 370Z

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That sums it up. I was going to keep this car long term, as while I dont love it, I also don't hate it.
I kindof act toward it how I feel at the moment. It's "meh". However, its not going to quietly get me from a to b without drama. No, it forces me to deal with problems all the damn time. It's like a girlfriend that rarely puts out and always.bitches but who has already moved in with you. I'll keep her until about 30-34k miles and then dump her without a second thought. If the brz STI is out, ill look hard at it. If the new mustang gt is out, and several hundred pounds lighter and more refined, ill look at that, but the Nissan is not a viable long term solution to my wants.

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You should have just held on to the Corvette. The Z is fat and floppy in comparison. You're not open to modding so that feeling will never change. Live and learn I guess.

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You're 100% correct. I could have totally lived with the numb feel and horrible weight-shift of the 370Z if it had done what I wanted it to, though...provide nice, reliable transportation.

But it can't even do that. It does NOTHING well. Except look good parked, but I don't really care what others think about what I drive, as is obvious by my trades (WS.6 to a G20 to a Z06 to a 370Z, in that order).

Strongly thinking about the BRZ STI when the '15 model drops (rumors of turbo for the '15 model when the contract stating that they won't add FI expires, if not, still, NA tweaks matter a LOT on a 2700# car). If they really do tart it up some, that car will be a market-segment dominator.

Now that I am looking to build a house in 2-3 years, though, and am going to be taking a $40K/year pay-cut, I am very car-note conscious, lol! I'd prefer to stay in the $35K financed range or lower, if possible. If the '15 GT comes out and is total sex though, I'd stretch that, but I think the BRZ, if they do an STI model, will give me what I'm looking for.

m4a1mustang

Well I hope one day you find what you are looking for.

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That's easy.


I just don't have the **** to afford it

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http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=UKn7z...%3DUKn7zlT3jhE

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If you buy a Subaru, go in knowing that it will rattle. A lot. It's built well, but for some reason they cannot get a quiet interior to save their lives.

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A friend of my drove a used FR-S today. 14K miles on it. He said no rattles. Could the BRZ be different? Anyway, my 370Z developed rattles early on, too. By 5K miles it sounded chintzy going over any bumps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUhLXvxlQR4

^That guy says EXACTLY what I've been trying to say about the 370Z. I can't get the steering wheel close enough to me without me crowding the pedals was a HUGE! complaint I've long had about the car. YOU NEED A TELESCOPING WHEEL if you're actually going to drive, vs. lounging around like a thug in the car.

Aside from that, yes, at the limits, the 370Z really does fall apart. It's a fun car for someone who will point it in a safe direction and pull the trigger. I'm sure I could change that if I modified it, but I didn't buy a new car to rip its guts out and replace them. Stock, it wallows unsurely when you put it hard into corners, and it bounces relentlessly when you take it over bumps. The video I linked above does a GREAT! job of mirroring my experiences to date with it, and illustrates them very well visually.

The 370Z is a numbers car. It did well on the slalom. Well on the skidpad. Well at the drag strip.

It's not a driver's car. It does very poorly at settling into sweepers. At handling irregular pavement that is a reality off-track. At actually putting the driver IN the car (I cannot get comfortable in it with regard to steering, everything else is fine). Fore/aft weight transitions are horrendous.

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We disagree entirely on the car, so I'll stick to your actual issue. Have you had a chance to get under the car and check everything out yet? I still think something's tweaked in the front end that's causing issues under braking.

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I have not, nor do I even care anymore. I'll heckle the dealership to limp the car by in good order until it's time to trade it in. NO passion for this thing anymore. Junk. I'm emotionally done with it and just don't care. Also, I doubt anything is tweaked. It did this at 10K miles, and the car was hit (panel damage) at 17K miles. The bodyshop had the whole front end (bodywork) off, and looked specifically for tweaked stuff. Found none. Nissan has aligned it twice. Both times good to go. Nissan has looked at the front end numerous times, keeping the car for several days total, trying to figure out WTF!? So I do not feel that I am going to accomplish anything other than getting dirty by crawling under it.

Have you driven a corvette? Everyone I know who has driven a BRZ or FR-S says it's like a lighter corvette regarding how it feels. That also means it's MUCH more precise, as it's hard to hide the 275's up front on a 'vette. I really miss that light, tossable, effortless weight transfer of my Z06, but I don't want the performance I will never use, but still have to pay for. A BRZ STI would totally be fully tappable on some occasions, and have a nice feel to it. I'm tired of this car in the fact that it's under warranty and has racked up thousands of dollars in repair already (shop time is $135 at my local dealer, per hour. They've kept it all day before). You think I'm going to own this POS after the 3/36? HAH! I'm going to trade it at around the 32-34K mile mark. Hopefully on a BRZ STI by then, but I'm still of course open.

Anyway, they make more than 1 brand of car for a reason

Chuck33079

Ok, I'm done. If the only action you're going to take is to continue taking it to the same dealer who has been completely unable to solve the issue there's nothing I can do to help. Good luck with your future vehicles, and may they bring you more joy than this one.

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Thanks. You talk about the dealer like they are one person, though. Lots of different techs have worked on the car over the past 6 months trying to solve this, not just 1 guy. I prefer to stick with 1 dealer because rapport is oh, so important when you have issues like this so you don't get told "Go pound sand, it's a wear item".

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If you were local I'd have crawled up under the damn thing for you and checked it out already. What harm would verifying the work youself, or taking it somewhere else for a second opinion cause?

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What, exactly, should I look for? Everything has already been looked at by people who do this for a living. Tell me what to look at and I will.