First Problem With my 370Z

Chuck33079

You just got a bad one. It sucks, and I feel for you. It happens to every car manufacturer.

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ImportConvert

But it doesn't happen to every car customer, and I'm butthurt over it.

Anyway, whatever the case, I think the local dealer is going to handle it. Regardless of what's done, I'm out of it next year. Hopefully the STI model or "S" model comes out here, if not, the BRZ Limited is still exactly what I'm looking for + rims/tires/I/E. About $2500 and it will be sick.

Chuck33079

I/E/Tune on one gets you around 215-225whp from the little reading I've done. Some sways and real tires and you've got a very entertaining little car.

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sig11

Lemon laws exist for a reason. How many times have they fixed the brake issue again?

ImportConvert

Four now, but lemon laws don't even come close. I checked. 90 days down time required, I believe.

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After roughly 750-ish (I filled up a couple of times, roughly. 1-3, I don't remember, but it has been since my last oil-change, and I have 1,000 miles to go until the next 3K mile oil-change interval (I run synthetic and usually go 4500) or something miles, the dealership says my Z1 rotors are trashed. They did a run-out dial indicator on them and they are horrible. The vibration shakes the whole car from stops as slow as 30mph.

They could not find any tq spec that was wrong, the entire front-end was taken down/re-tq'ed, what could affect the brakes. Nothing was out of spec.

They agree that neither the pads, nor the rotors show signs of hard use other than being severely warped (no blue spots on the rotors, no excessive brake dust, etc.).

The calipers were all checked and function fine.

Nissan Corporate is getting involved.

I'm going to ask that either they show me what is causing this issue (produce the defective part for me to see, or educate me to the tq-spec, whatever, that is off, if any can be found), or give me pay-off and take their POS and let me go on my way.

I can see no other resolution other than them turning or replacing my rotors every 500-1K miles. I drive the car 26 miles a day to work and home, 3-4 days a week. The other 3-4 days, it goes 20 miles a day just to the gym. Plus road-trips. Now that it is vibrating so horribly, I am aware each and every time I am on the brakes. I use them less than I thought even before. This is horrible performance for a car which has a whole page in the product literature devoted to the Sport brakes, and which features multiple pictures taken on what is obviously a track of some sort.

I have not heard back from Corporate, so thus far, all of my dealings are positive. The Nissan dealer says there simply is nothing at all they can do except replace the rotors/pads for me, and that's obviously not the issue.

Here are the rotors I trashed in a month of home/work/gym in the flatlands of NW Louisiana:
Akebono 370Z/G37 Sport Package Performance Rotors
Slotted only.

I was running these pads:
370Z StopTech Brake Pads (Sport Model)

Chuck33079

That's probably the way to go.

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ImportConvert

That's the only way to go.

-Fix it and SHOW ME HOW. Because there is SOMETHING WRONG, and it's tangible. Show it to me.

-Acknowledge that you CANNOT show me what is wrong. Accept that this product is not performing as advertised and nothing you can do (since you cannot find a flaw to correct) will fix it. Buy it back for pay-off. I used the car for the amount and interest already paid, and I'm cool with that. It has since developed irreconcilable issues and is no-longer the product advertised. I want pay-off.

-Treat me poorly, force the dealer into a situation where they have me in there ever 500-1K miles to replace or turn the affected parts. Accept that there will be backlash from me, as well.

Those are the only 3 courses of action that I think could be taken, and I strongly hope and suspect the first or second one is what Nissan will opt for.

I just DO NOT drive this car hard enough for this to be an issue. If you can get 5 minutes of lap-time out of it on a track, it can take MUCH MORE than I put it through. I'm thoroughly disgusted. This is the 4th time in 22K miles.

m4a1mustang

I really hope they just buy you out so you can be done with it.

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Chuck33079

Yeah, something is flat out broken somewhere in there. I'm really curious as to what ends up being the culprit if everything was checked. I just can't see it being heat related with the short commute. I'm at a loss. If everything else is in spec and you're not dragging a piston, what else is there? It's not the rotors or pads themselves since you've swapped them with aftermarket with no change in outcome.

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Red__Zed

I know I wish Nissan worked that way

ImportConvert

I hope they do, but I have serious doubts. I have a feeling that this is going to be a nightmare for both myself, and Nissan.

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Brake dust appears even on both front rims, and no blue spots or any other signs of heat are present on either rotor.

Chuck33079

I'm assuming they've checked out the ABS computer and all the other electronics as well. We're running out of parts it could be.

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ImportConvert

They did not say, but the ABS light is off, and it doesn't feel to be pulsing the pedal at any point.