Point of this thread, OP if you want low don't go with the swifts they only drop you 1" front and 1.2" rear.

Sorry you got that impression. Sure they ride harsher than stock, or even the TEIN springs I had, but I wouldn't ever go as far as to say that the parts I put on MY car are crap. If they were crap, I wouldn't have them... you know ME well enough to know that is true.

If you wanna get rid of those swifts, lmk I can get you a set of BC coils. :icon17:

I just wanted to break it down and get to the real reason why you would call something crap. (Not you specifically) but anyone that says that something is "crap" gives the company a bad rep for no reason...

If you have had a set of their parts on YOUR OWN car, used them and had an issue that wasn't resolved, I could see your reason for calling them crap. Knowing otherwise makes it seem as if you state that stuff based off what you SEE which, in my opinion, isn't right.

Nothing personal as I'd be having the same conversation with anyone else if they made such a statement. That is all.

No big deal, congrats on liking what you have. repped...

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When we going to meet up again? Seems like forever since we all got together.

I should have my wheels and tires mounted next week. Anytime after that i'm down. I'm just gonna roll all monster truck style for a little while. :icon17:

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As soon as get my wheels on i just need to get the springs and camber kit done up.

They are crap, though, from a performance standpoint.

If your goal is to just lower your car, then sure I guess they're okay. But for performance? They aren't good. They're likely even worse than stock.

No one who actually knows suspensions would ever recommend them. Yes, BC ERs are okay for track use, but that's an entirely different animal. BC BRs are just not performance coilovers. They're just the go-to "forum brand" that a lot of people who hard park their cars use.

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Also, while I've never used them personally, my buddy was running them on his Forester. One shock failed after less than 2k miles.

Thank you all for the feedback. I might just go with the swift springs because of how nicely they sound like they handle and just settle with that ride height. I'll put on 19 or 20 inch rims for less wheel gap. Also considering the BC BRs still. They appear to have a decent reputation. Anyone know how the two compare in handling? Any other suggestions for coilovers? I know there's megan (which people bash on), eibach, tein, and some others. I would get the KW V3's but they're a little out of my price range. What do you guys think about getting them used? I use my car as a daily driver with occasional mountain runs. Nearly no tracking however I do like driving aggressively and pushing the limits of my car.

Swifts with Koni shocks will blow BC BRs away -- and they'll be about the same price (if not a bit cheaper). Some vendors offer package deals on them. I think KamiSpeed does?

Used isn't bad if you can find them.

Unfortunately, if you want a decent coilover, you're going to have to pay. KW V3s are the "entry level" performance/street coilover. They aren't the best for the track, but they're more than enough for someone who wants to carve up the mountains (and maybe visit the track a few times a year).

I've been super pleased with the BC-ER's on track, over 3000 track miles on some very suspension abusing tracks and no problems. Granted these are a notch up from the base BR's but aside from the external reservoir and extra adjustment I think the basic construction is the same.

The ER's in particular with the 12K/10K springs are probably not the best choice for the street (you can get them with swift springs optionally) but I imagine with 10K/8K springs on the BR's the street ride is quite reasonable, although probably not quite as good as KW's for street. Myself and plenty of others are using BC's for Time Attack and couldn't be happier.

But since you are street focused and on a budget your options are a bit limited. Remember that lowering much more than about 1" will require aftermarket front and rear control arms/links to get camber back within spec. Swift should get you as low as you can go before you have to do that, maybe check out a local car that has them to see if it is low enough for you?

:icon18: 100% guarantee that shock failed because he didn't set the load correctly and put all the energy into the absorber instead of the coil. Happens all the time. Don't bash em if you've never tried em.

Over the winter I might send the rear springs back to them to be checked for spring rate and see if I can get something a bit softer... the front is set almost fully on firm and feels nice and planted... the rear just seems like it doesn't have enough weight (as I stated I have a G37 kit which was made for a heavier rear setup).

I don't think anyone is denying that the Swifts are nice springs, they just don't give you enough drop. Any time you lower the car you are generally going to compromise some ride "comfort"... just a matter of how much you are willing to deal with for the given drop. For the money, quality and adjustibility I found the BCs to be a pretty descent option.

I'd still consider used KWs or something of that nature if you truly have a $1,500 budget.

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