Brake Pad Recommendation Non-Sport

osbornsm · 05-09-2012, 12:22 PM

I can say from experience that the XP8's will squeal under normal driving conditions. that's what the 200F--> Minimum temperature is all about.

Some people might have methods to make them not squeal but between that and the brake dust... i'll stick with something else for street use.

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B&W_Evader · 05-09-2012, 01:30 PM

Performance Friction Carbon Metalics is one more good option, they just don't make them for the sport brakes yet. They also don't advertise a temp range.

Dust is funny, after bedding the brakes the wheels changed color, thought I overheated the paint first and was WTF! Then I noticied it was just dust buildup. Kinda like the darker shade.

Cold friction for me feels about like stock to me. No issues here. Still not a single squeek out of the pads yet. I guess results vary. I've seen complaints about it on the forum and am still worried that it will start any moment.

Mt Tam I am · 05-11-2012, 02:14 PM

^You are doing better than I. I now have a slight squeel. Very slight, and lots of dust. Cold braking is excellent.

Getting wheels to match dust color would be easier than cleaning them. The chances of me doing this are low.

harman.khinda · 05-12-2012, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader

Performance Friction Carbon Metalics is one more good option, they just don't make them for the sport brakes yet. They also don't advertise a temp range.

Dust is funny, after bedding the brakes the wheels changed color, thought I overheated the paint first and was WTF! Then I noticied it was just dust buildup. Kinda like the darker shade.

Cold friction for me feels about like stock to me. No issues here. Still not a single squeek out of the pads yet. I guess results vary. I've seen complaints about it on the forum and am still worried that it will start any moment.

the only thing turning me off the Carbotech AX6 is you either have to replace rotors or resurface them. I'd like a pad I can just swap in after cleaning the rotors. I can't find the PFC pads for the 370.

ChrisSlicks · 05-13-2012, 09:52 AM

For aggressive street driving I would recommend the Mintex Extreme (sold by Stillen's Brake Pros devision). They wear well, handle 1100F (and even higher in my experience). They do dust quite badly when pushed to the limit but the dust isn't abrasive. Only downside is they are moderately expensive.

PFC has good street compounds but don't think they have this size yet.

XP8 is pretty aggressive for the street, I would use extreme caution if you attempt to drive this in the rain.

CL Brakes is good as a track day pad since it is swap friendly. Extended driving on the street is not recommended since the self lubricating properties only work at temperature. A day of 2 of street driving after the event can be used to scrub the rotor of the race compound so that you can swap street pads back in though.

Just about all the pads are going to require cleansing and rebedding. A thorough scrubbing with heavy steel wool is usually enough.

sixpax · 05-13-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks

Just about all the pads are going to require cleansing and rebedding. A thorough scrubbing with heavy steel wool is usually enough.

Supposedly, EBC Blue NDX do not require any of this. Supposedly.

B&W_Evader · 05-14-2012, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by harman.khinda

the only thing turning me off the Carbotech AX6 is you either have to replace rotors or resurface them. I'd like a pad I can just swap in after cleaning the rotors. I can't find the PFC pads for the 370.

Had 9700 miles on the rotors on stock pads. I just sanded the rotors and bedded the pads. Didn't even take the calipers off. Stuck me finger in there

with a piece of sand paper on the tip and went in and out as I rotated the rotor slowly.

And yeah, week of normal driving looks like I haven't cleaned the wheels for a month or two. 5-10x the dust. This makes me think I'll be going through them quite a bit faster than the stock ones.

For the squeeling, I'd try getting them hot and see if it goes away after that. Have no idea if it'll work but that's what I would try. Any chance you got rust dust from wet rotors in them. Washed the car and let it sit before driving/drying?

DCNISMO · 05-14-2012, 11:06 AM

I like XP8's, had them in my Alcons in my Audi. They seemed to make lots of brake dust though. That's what I plan to get when I need new pads. They did chatter and squeal some when cold though, and they really need to be warmed up before they really work well. If you pull out of the garage and need to do a panic stop before they get warmed up...well they won't grip too well.

05-09-2012, 12:22 PM	#16 (permalink)
osbornsm A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: WHAT Posts: 2,551 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Rep Power: 424	I can say from experience that the XP8's will squeal under normal driving conditions. that's what the 200F--> Minimum temperature is all about. Some people might have methods to make them not squeal but between that and the brake dust... i'll stick with something else for street use. . __________________ 2018 Camaro SS 1LE (455hp) - 2011 Nissan 370z (333hp) - 2004 VW R32 (240hp) - 2000 Civic Si (160hp)

05-09-2012, 01:30 PM	#17 (permalink)
B&W_Evader Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA Posts: 972 Drives: slower than before Rep Power: 387	Performance Friction Carbon Metalics is one more good option, they just don't make them for the sport brakes yet. They also don't advertise a temp range. Dust is funny, after bedding the brakes the wheels changed color, thought I overheated the paint first and was WTF! Then I noticied it was just dust buildup. Kinda like the darker shade. Cold friction for me feels about like stock to me. No issues here. Still not a single squeek out of the pads yet. I guess results vary. I've seen complaints about it on the forum and am still worried that it will start any moment. __________________ \|RIP\|6spd-sport\|OSG-LSD\|XP8\|RBF600\|Eibach Sways\|RE-71R\|FI-34Row\|Gen3-CAI\|Yaw P.S.\|

05-11-2012, 02:14 PM	#18 (permalink)
Mt Tam I am A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: California Posts: 10,709 Drives: 370Z T/S/N 6MT & XKE Rep Power: 3843	^You are doing better than I. I now have a slight squeel. Very slight, and lots of dust. Cold braking is excellent. Getting wheels to match dust color would be easier than cleaning them. The chances of me doing this are low. __________________ "Does the carpet match the drapes? NO!!! I don't date bald women." Nissan Motorsports 34R Oil Cooler. Stillen CBE. Hotchkis Sport Sway Bars. KW Variant 3 Coilover System. Stillen Gen3 CAI. Michelin Pilot Super Sport. Stillen Brake Ducts. Carbotech™ XP10/XP8 Pads. Z1 Front Rotors. Z1 Stainless Brake Lines. Two degrees of camber

05-13-2012, 09:52 AM	#20 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 653	For aggressive street driving I would recommend the Mintex Extreme (sold by Stillen's Brake Pros devision). They wear well, handle 1100F (and even higher in my experience). They do dust quite badly when pushed to the limit but the dust isn't abrasive. Only downside is they are moderately expensive. PFC has good street compounds but don't think they have this size yet. XP8 is pretty aggressive for the street, I would use extreme caution if you attempt to drive this in the rain. CL Brakes is good as a track day pad since it is swap friendly. Extended driving on the street is not recommended since the self lubricating properties only work at temperature. A day of 2 of street driving after the event can be used to scrub the rotor of the race compound so that you can swap street pads back in though. Just about all the pads are going to require cleansing and rebedding. A thorough scrubbing with heavy steel wool is usually enough. __________________ Hotchkis ARB \| Stillen CAI \| Art Pipes \| Berk CBE \| Stillen AP Racing Brakes \| AE Performance Oil Cooler \| BC Racing ER Coilovers \| Doran Control Arms

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05-14-2012, 11:06 AM	#23 (permalink)
DCNISMO Track Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: washington dc Posts: 995 Drives: Nismo Z Rep Power: 179	I like XP8's, had them in my Alcons in my Audi. They seemed to make lots of brake dust though. That's what I plan to get when I need new pads. They did chatter and squeal some when cold though, and they really need to be warmed up before they really work well. If you pull out of the garage and need to do a panic stop before they get warmed up...well they won't grip too well.