Brake Pad Recommendation Non-Sport

sixpax

I dig everything about the XP-8's myself, except the cost. Keep in mind I am very new to all this stuff, but was wondering why some other less expensive choices are not being tried out. For example I think EBC yellow stuff temp wise is only 150 degrees less than XP-8 (950 versus 1100) and I figure the cooling kit from Stillen is supposedly worth 140 degree (or 25%) difference from what I have read ... so they seem a viable option for half the cost. Or am I way off base ?

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Mt Tam I am

Carbotech XP8™ (1108™)
A high torque brake compound with a wide operating temperature range (200°F-1350°F+)

They are even better!

RE: Or am I way off base ? I hope not, I've done the same things for the same reason.



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osbornsm

I can say from experience that the XP8's will squeal under normal driving conditions. that's what the 200F--> Minimum temperature is all about.

Some people might have methods to make them not squeal but between that and the brake dust... i'll stick with something else for street use.

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B&W_Evader

Performance Friction Carbon Metalics is one more good option, they just don't make them for the sport brakes yet. They also don't advertise a temp range.

Dust is funny, after bedding the brakes the wheels changed color, thought I overheated the paint first and was WTF! Then I noticied it was just dust buildup. Kinda like the darker shade.

Cold friction for me feels about like stock to me. No issues here. Still not a single squeek out of the pads yet. I guess results vary. I've seen complaints about it on the forum and am still worried that it will start any moment.

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Mt Tam I am

^You are doing better than I. I now have a slight squeel. Very slight, and lots of dust. Cold braking is excellent.

Getting wheels to match dust color would be easier than cleaning them. The chances of me doing this are low.

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harman.khinda

the only thing turning me off the Carbotech AX6 is you either have to replace rotors or resurface them. I'd like a pad I can just swap in after cleaning the rotors. I can't find the PFC pads for the 370.

ChrisSlicks

For aggressive street driving I would recommend the Mintex Extreme (sold by Stillen's Brake Pros devision). They wear well, handle 1100F (and even higher in my experience). They do dust quite badly when pushed to the limit but the dust isn't abrasive. Only downside is they are moderately expensive.

PFC has good street compounds but don't think they have this size yet.

XP8 is pretty aggressive for the street, I would use extreme caution if you attempt to drive this in the rain.

CL Brakes is good as a track day pad since it is swap friendly. Extended driving on the street is not recommended since the self lubricating properties only work at temperature. A day of 2 of street driving after the event can be used to scrub the rotor of the race compound so that you can swap street pads back in though.

Just about all the pads are going to require cleansing and rebedding. A thorough scrubbing with heavy steel wool is usually enough.

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sixpax

Supposedly, EBC Blue NDX do not require any of this. Supposedly.

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B&W_Evader

Had 9700 miles on the rotors on stock pads. I just sanded the rotors and bedded the pads. Didn't even take the calipers off. Stuck me finger in there with a piece of sand paper on the tip and went in and out as I rotated the rotor slowly.

And yeah, week of normal driving looks like I haven't cleaned the wheels for a month or two. 5-10x the dust. This makes me think I'll be going through them quite a bit faster than the stock ones.

For the squeeling, I'd try getting them hot and see if it goes away after that. Have no idea if it'll work but that's what I would try. Any chance you got rust dust from wet rotors in them. Washed the car and let it sit before driving/drying?

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