Swift Springs // Problem with Alignment
 

I would like to know what the hell is going on? I posted about this before and it still isn't resolved. I have taken my car to three different places and had four alignments done.

I have swift springs with a rear camber kit. They can't seem to get my alignment right. The steering wheel sits off to the left. When they do align it to the "center" it pulls to the right. Everyone either seems to be an idiot or the springs wacked out my alignment so bad they really can't get it back into specs without further modifications?

Can I get some insight.

From my experience there is a lot of shops that don't do good enough alignments. I only trust one shop to do mine. And it was years before I found them. They charge a lot but it's perfect every time.

I'd like to see pics of your rear camber kit and toe bolts? Do you have some pics of the alignment before and after from all the shops you went to so we can see what's being thrown off from each time it was done? Also are you running spacers or hubcentric rings?

That's just crazy.... So many people have these springs and have had NO problems at all!

when i dropped my subbie i went to les schawb for alignment. they give 30 day promise of work and will re-check your alignment for free with in that period.

OP, you said you have rear camber arms installed, but what about aftermarket toe bolts? If your car is pulling to the right or left, then the toe out is out of specs.

Toe does not cause a car to pull in a certain direction, it only causes tire wear and the steering wheel to not be centered. Camber/caster will cause your car to pull to the right or the left

^Huh? Toe does affect the way the vehicle handles....

This article came from AA1 auto repair and discusses alignment characteristics and why a vehicle may be pulling to the right or left....

" The underlying cause may be rear toe out of specifications, a bent rear axle, chassis misalignment or a stackup of assembly tolerances in the chassis causing rear axle misalignment. Measure and compare the wheelbase on both sides, check for the presence of a thrust angle, and/or measure individual rear toe. Correct by realigning the rear axle or rear toe, or by performing a thrust angle alignment"

If one rear wheel has some "toe in", and the other rear wheel is has some slight "toe out", the car is going to be all over the place. I'm thinking that is probably whats wrong with the OP's alignment. Plus since he said he installed a camber kit, I'm assuming the alignment techs were able to get the camber back to specs, however he didn't say anything about new toe bolts.

Or they could have gotten the correct toe but the camber is way out of specs.... We really need to see the his alignment sheet to see whats going on

You might want to also just have them check your steering linkage just to make sure when the steering wheel points to 'zero', the front wheels are actually pointing to zero. Something I found out one day that's not encompassed in most alignment checks.

Bad toe will definitely cause very bad bump steer as well as drift in a particular direction.

I'm betting this is going to be an installation issue such as loose spring perch bolts or something along those lines.

OP, check the suspension and make sure everything is installed correctly. You may have missed something.

They must have the toe a little off...

I just put Swift springs on my 370 last week. No camber kit. I was waiting a week or so to settle before I take it to get an alignment. After 4 days still tracks straight, no pulling, no viberations. I'll probably take it in this week to have an alignment and the camber adjusted.

So, it sounds like your alignment shops are the issue.

This is absolutely ridiculous that I am having this many problems when other people are doing the exact same thing and I haven't heard of anything this bad. It's complete garbage.

I will post the alignment sheet here in the next day or so. Thank you for everyone's help.

Swifts and new Hankooks last night. Here's the alignment sheet, no camber kit

http://www.the370z.com/members/wheee...7483-align.jpg

Has anyone else run swift springs without adjustable add ons?