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In regards to some posts above: I've torn down all of this front area and spent hours thinking through how I would design a "good" brake duct kit for this car. It's hard, and so I still don't have ducting all the way to the rotors. Props to Stillen for releasing something. I ordered a set through Z1 yesterday, so I'll get to play with it soon.
Stillen: I didn't see anything in the product literature indicating the diameter of the tube and the end fittings. The stuff I've been working with to date has been 2.5 inch, but that's part of the reason I never reached the hub, it seems impossible to get a 2.5 opening to the inside there without closing off a chunk of it, and 2.5 inch hose doesn't play well in the wheel well either. Is this kit 2 inch, or even 1.5? |
My kit will be here Saturday. But I won't be able to get to it till next weekend.
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Three things: (1) As others have asked for, please post pics of front of Z after install. Interested to see what the round inlets look like from the front. (2) Sounds like this may not work with a bunch of the oil cooler kits that sit in the area in front of the wheel well. (3) Is there any concern with water making it's way through the piping and splashing the back of the rotor, which may actually negatively affect braking in wet conditions?
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Well, I don't have their kit in hand, but based on my homebrew setup currently (2.5" ducts from the fangs using Modshack's connection method, just dumping into the wheel well area), my guesses are:
(1) You probably do want to paint the front fang tubes. It's easy to do, just shoot them with flat black spraypaint meant for bbq grills before installation, so they're not shiny when you see them end-on (although you have to be pretty short to notice anyways). (2) For oil cooler kits in front of the radiator, it should be a non-issue. Worst case you do a little messing around with hose routing. For the ones mounted off on the side in front of the wheel well... not sure tbh. It seems like you'd still be able to route this though, as it doesn't come through the *front* of the wheel well. Might just be a little tight in one spot? (3) I don't think there's any concern about water, so long as you don't jam a garden hose into the fangs. It's a long and convoluted path, and what little gets through it would just vaporize on the brake side IMHO. Keep in mind your rotors are always getting wet in the rain anways, the outside is completely exposed through the wheel :) |
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2) I don't see why this won't work with any aftermarket oil cooler. It may take a little creativity on hose routing but there is no reason it won't still work. 3) There is absolutely no concern about water and/or debris getting into the system. As Wstar mentioned, these go through a lot of bends and any debris or water will be stopped well up the line. Even if water were to somehow make it all the way back to the hub, it would not be a large enough volume to cause any issues. |
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Thanks for your answers! Also, for those of us close to Stillen, how much to have you guys throw them on? I don't like bumper removal. |
These only work with aftermarket rotors with directional air flow correct?
Just curious, what are the principle differences between this kit and the DIY brake cooling project some of us do? See: http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ing-ducts.html I was hoping for something that doesn't utilize the fang vents as I was hoping to duct air into my Gen 3's from there. Can't get a Stillen fascia either because I already bought a Stillen splitter + canards.. |
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So far as using the vents for the G3's I wouldn't worry so much about that for the G3's are pretty efficient as is. You might not like the looks but you could buy duct inserts that can be placed directly in front of the filters. Unless rain is an issue. As far as directional rotors they will benefit more. Not sure how efficient they are with a solid blank rotor. |
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These will work regardless of what rotor you choose. Every rotor wants to be cooled from the inside out. If you ever see a race car with ducting on the outside of the caliper, that is to cool the caliper. You always want to direct the air to the inside of the rotor. Quote:
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IMHO, having pored over our DIY options for many months, I'd say the big thing the Stillen kit gives us is the replacement dust shield that's nicely machined with an optimal attachment for the hose. The rest isn't that hard to DIY, but Stillen's dust shields are $$.
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I'm on a layover in Orange county tonite and will be stopping by to look at it in person in the morning to gain a little insight before I do my install. My kit arrived today at my house.
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