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harman.khinda 03-15-2012 12:05 PM

nismo springs with base struts?
 
looking to buyset of nismo springs. how will they match my non-sportstruts? idc if the struts wear out faster i will just get
the nismo struts when they do. since the drop is minimal will i need any supporting mods?

tjlazer 03-15-2012 12:12 PM

should be fine. The springs are harsh though, so they will wear the struts out faster.

I have Swift Spec R on my Sport struts and these are rated higher than Nismos.

harman.khinda 03-15-2012 01:02 PM

r the base-non-sports and sport struts the same?

harman.khinda 03-15-2012 01:03 PM

r the nismo or swift springs progressive?

B&W_Evader 03-16-2012 09:52 AM

Not sure how stiffer springs would wear out a strut. Seems like it would prevent it from actuating as much. As a result, I would think they would last longer with less displacement and slower movement on the sliding components. I could see it affecting other areas that will see hgher g loading as a result of the modificaiton like wheel bearings and ball joints. Haven't done any research on it, just thinking...

The real issue will be increasing the natural frequency of the suspension without increasing the dampening factor. You may find your car more bumpy since you may become under-damped. This could wear out a strut quicker since this would increase the amount of total movement. It'd also be bad for handling and ride comfort.

tjlazer 03-16-2012 11:04 AM

maybe not so with the Nismo springs since they are not lowering springs.

harman.khinda 03-16-2012 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 1602934)
The real issue will be increasing the natural frequency of the suspension without increasing the dampening factor. You may find your car more bumpy since you may become under-damped. This could wear out a strut quicker since this would increase the amount of total movement. It'd also be bad for handling and ride comfort.

So if I install Koni Yellows w/ adjustable dampening would I be able to dial in the right amount of dampening?

I'm going for the Nismo springs cause I like the ride height and seems like the cheapest way to get better handling. If I got the Swift lowering springs I'd eventually have to invest in camber arms and traction rods; not so with the Nismo springs. I've also read that wheel spacers can help protect wheel bearings.

tjlazer 03-16-2012 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by harman.khinda (Post 1603148)
So if I install Koni Yellows w/ adjustable dampening would I be able to dial in the right amount of dampening?

I'm going for the Nismo springs cause I like the ride height and seems like the cheapest way to get better handling. If I got the Swift lowering springs I'd eventually have to invest in camber arms and traction rods; not so with the Nismo springs. I've also read that wheel spacers can help protect wheel bearings.

I have Swift and did not need camber kits at all. Also you will find the Nismo springs do not seem to lower the car all that much if at all. I had them on my car and it actually raised my front .5" (28" was around 27.5" before) but others have said there was no drop at all and a few said it dropped it a 1/4 of an inch.

harman.khinda 03-16-2012 12:21 PM

^ so your running swifts w/ OEM sturts. and are close to the OEM alignment specs? and handling is improved?


I'd go with Swifts only if they match the OEM struts in terms of dampening, and the suspension geometry and harmonics are not negatively effected. Also I'm a right to assume the Swifts would wear out the struts faster because of a reduced rate of motion?

tjlazer 03-16-2012 12:46 PM

yep no problems at all, and Swift said they designed them to work with regular struts. No issues at all. My alignment is within spec, but barely. Running -1.9 rear and -1.4 fronts. Alot of Swift owners have said they did not need camber kits, but some had to have them. Each car is different so there is no way to know if you will need them until you try.

B&W_Evader 03-16-2012 02:10 PM

[QUOTE=harman.khinda;1603148]So if I install Koni Yellows w/ adjustable dampening would I be able to dial in the right amount of dampening?

I would think so but I really haven't researched this area yet.

I'm probably going to be sticking with the stock springs and dampeners on mine unless there's something I really don't like once I put swaybars on it. I must be turning into an old fart since I usually lower my cars but I'm thinking I don't want to do it on this one.

harman.khinda 03-16-2012 09:47 PM

im just gonna buy a set of nismo springs and struts.

Imperial 03-17-2012 05:07 AM

I have a set of Nismo Springs off of my Nismo Z if anyone is interested in buying them. =)


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