What do you have to say about sway bars?

ZMan8 · 03-16-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader

OK... Image attached and I added the moment of inertia numbers.
BTW, don't expect it to match exactly to swaybar manufacturer's since it's it's the stiffness of the bar and does not factor in the hole positions on the ends.

cycy89 · 03-16-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader

OK... Image attached and I added the moment of inertia numbers.
BTW, don't expect it to match exactly to swaybar manufacturer's since it's the stiffness of the bar and does not factor in the hole positions on the ends.

soo.. Eibach has the best sway bars?

B&W_Evader · 03-16-2012, 12:20 PM

My personal opinion, yes Eibach is the best. Technically they did it right. Especially if you want the real beafy sway bar at minimal weight penalty. Stillen is still a good choice too if you don't want it quite as stiff. If Whitelines were stock color and stock ends, it would be cool since Nissan might not notice them during warranty claims. I don't think the ends are stock looking though. If what I think is true, I think they're marketing them wrong by not having it an exact match look-wise.

ZMan8 · 03-16-2012, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader

My personal opinion, yes Eibach is the best. Technically they did it right. Especially if you want the real beafy sway bar at minimal weight penalty. Stillen is still a good choice too if you don't want it quite as stiff. If Whitelines were stock color and stock ends, it would be cool since Nissan might not notice them during warranty claims. I don't think the ends are stock looking though. If what I think is true, I think they're marketing them wrong by not having it an exact match look-wise.

So are your figures basically the middle setting on these sway bars?

cycy89 · 03-16-2012, 01:57 PM

my WLs are coming in today. i know im not gonna regret my choice

stiffest setting FTW!

B&W_Evader · 03-16-2012, 02:34 PM

These are the numbers I found on the different websites for settings.

OEM (Front 1.04 OD x .15 wall 560 lbs @ 1", Rear 0.945 OD x 0.13 wall, 540 lbs @ 1")
Stillen Sway bars $301.78 (Front +21/+48% 1.0625x0.250, Rear +37/+70% 1.0x0.188)
Whitelines Sway Bars (Front 27mm-solid $271, Rear 24mm-solid $240, End Links $167.70)
Hotchkis $475 (Front 35mm +205% tube, Rear 28.5mm +75% tube)
Eibach $529 (Front 32 (+76%/+117%), Rear 29mm (+67%/+98%/+130%))

Found the Eibach for $350 at tire rack. F&R: P/N 6393.320
Another site had them cheaper but didn't see anyone using them.

cycy89 · 03-17-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader

Whitelines Sway Bars (Front 27mm-solid $271, Rear 24mm-solid $240, End Links $167.70)

My whiteline just came in yesterday and got them installed right away. I got them from a website $384 shipped. I didn't get the end links. Ordered on tuesday, came in on friday

. Very good customer service. I actually ordered them last week but had some issues with Paypal, and they called me to help me with the issue. So I placed the order again on Tuesday they shipped them out right away

Stiffest setting!!

Installation wasn't bad at all. I was by myself and knocked them out in a few hours. took a dinner break in between 2 sway bars.
The front sway bar installation was just as easy as an oil change. My car is still pretty new so all the nuts came right off. if you have issues with rusted nuts just soak them with WD40 or rust busters.
The rear one was a bit more complicated. I have the single mid-pipe exhaust set up so it was a bit easier for me. I took out the screws on the strut bar on both sides, took one out on the rear, and loosed the other one and let it hanging there. then I took out 2 screws on the exhaust and let the mid pipe hanging. It might be more complicated with duel setup. Now just try to wiggle the stock sway bar out like a puzzle piece! Before you put the aftermarket one in make sure it's in the right direction and not the other way around...

Make sure you grease up the bushings really well. And don't over torque!

I test drove around the neighborhood going 30mph after I was done installing them, I could definitely tell the steering was much more responsive! Going to test them out on the freeway today

EDIT: more pix

Take off either one and loosen up the other one.

PaulZ370 · 03-17-2012, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cycy89

Dude - My Eibachs looked so much beefier, but then I guess the Whitelines are solid, so they don't have to be beefier, but the numbers on the Eibachs indicated that they are even tighter than the Whitelines... Did you consider Eibachs at all? and if so, what made you go with Whitelines instead? just curious....

cycy89 · 03-17-2012, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370

Dude - My Eibachs looked so much beefier, but then I guess the Whitelines are solid, so they don't have to be beefier, but the numbers on the Eibachs indicated that they are even tighter than the Whitelines... Did you consider Eibachs at all? and if so, what made you go with Whitelines instead? just curious....

ive heard a lot of good things about whiteline. two of my z friends have WL and they really like it. one of them had stillen before WL and didn't like it as much. And the shop that works on my car they recommend WL too. If you look at numbers the Eibachs are better. but i guess you have to try on different sway bars to say which one is better. I know the WL sway bars are not that thick compare to stock but they are really heavy. i'd probably picked Eibach if all my friends had them. haha. Oh and I got this really good deal on that website.

KaienZ34 · 03-17-2012, 11:07 PM

I'm thinking about the stillen, i had the hotchkis but sold them. Since my car is about 98% street driving and 2% track driving i thought the hotchkis were a bit over kill for me.

B&W_Evader · 03-19-2012, 06:08 PM

OK, put a few more pieces of information together on this one...
Minor correction on stock size (source Nissan website)
Addition of Nismo Sways (Nissan website)
Put the advertised stiffness in new column for easy reading
Found some additional pricing from distributor listings
Should make your sway bar decisions easier.

ZMan8 · 03-19-2012, 06:32 PM

^ Nice chart! Thanks for posting it.

azza12311 · 11-20-2015, 09:24 PM

I am thinking of going whiteline as well. its around $650 AUD for whiteline. that includes back and links. looking at the other bands some don't come with links and cost around the same when you pay for the links as well..
cycy89. do you still have the car?. have you changed them since then . what do you think of them from this date?.

cycy89 · 11-20-2015, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by azza12311

I am thinking of going whiteline as well. its around $650 AUD for whiteline. that includes back and links. looking at the other bands some don't come with links and cost around the same when you pay for the links as well..
cycy89. do you still have the car?. have you changed them since then . what do you think of them from this date?.

Still have them and work fine! Car went through a lot since then lol

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azza12311 · 11-21-2015, 06:39 AM

Sweet good to hear mate. looks like I will be ordering Whiteline then. yes I bet it has it has been a few years haha.

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Originally Posted by cycy89

Still have them and work fine! Car went through a lot since then lol

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View Poll Results: Top choices of sways bars
Whiteline	60	28.17%
Hotchkis	48	22.54%
Cusco	12	5.63%
Eibach	47	22.07%
Stillen	36	16.90%
Tanabe	1	0.47%
Other	9	4.23%
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03-16-2012, 01:57 PM	#50 (permalink)
cycy89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: 120mph somewhere Posts: 1,097 Drives: #TTURBOZ Rep Power: 30	my WLs are coming in today. i know im not gonna regret my choice stiffest setting FTW! __________________ Fast Intentions Twin Turbo Kit GT2860RS, 677WHP\|FI 34 row oil cooler\|F.I. CBE\|Fast 500E return fuel system\|FI trans cooler\|FI billet aluminum flex plate\|Excedy clutch packs\|ENKEI RP03\|BC BR coilovers\|SEIBON Carbon\|EVO-R Rear fog light\|GTR push start\|Whiteline sway bars, Diff bushing\|DSS axles\|ECUTekW/FlexFuelTune

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KaienZ34 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: LA. not L.a. Posts: 21,652 Drives: Z34 Tour/Sport Rep Power: 178	I'm thinking about the stillen, i had the hotchkis but sold them. Since my car is about 98% street driving and 2% track driving i thought the hotchkis were a bit over kill for me. __________________ *"These Violent Delights Have Violent Ends"* http://www.the370z.com/members/kaienz34-albums-z34.html

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03-16-2012, 12:20 PM	#48 (permalink)
B&W_Evader Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA Posts: 972 Drives: slower than before Rep Power: 387	My personal opinion, yes Eibach is the best. Technically they did it right. Especially if you want the real beafy sway bar at minimal weight penalty. Stillen is still a good choice too if you don't want it quite as stiff. If Whitelines were stock color and stock ends, it would be cool since Nissan might not notice them during warranty claims. I don't think the ends are stock looking though. If what I think is true, I think they're marketing them wrong by not having it an exact match look-wise.

03-16-2012, 02:34 PM	#51 (permalink)
B&W_Evader Track Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: CA Posts: 972 Drives: slower than before Rep Power: 387	These are the numbers I found on the different websites for settings. OEM (Front 1.04 OD x .15 wall 560 lbs @ 1", Rear 0.945 OD x 0.13 wall, 540 lbs @ 1") Stillen Sway bars $301.78 (Front +21/+48% 1.0625x0.250, Rear +37/+70% 1.0x0.188) Whitelines Sway Bars (Front 27mm-solid $271, Rear 24mm-solid $240, End Links $167.70) Hotchkis $475 (Front 35mm +205% tube, Rear 28.5mm +75% tube) Eibach $529 (Front 32 (+76%/+117%), Rear 29mm (+67%/+98%/+130%)) Found the Eibach for $350 at tire rack. F&R: P/N 6393.320 Another site had them cheaper but didn't see anyone using them.

11-20-2015, 09:24 PM	#58 (permalink)
azza12311 Base Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: australia Posts: 153 Drives: nissan 370z ,r34 Rep Power: 10	I am thinking of going whiteline as well. its around $650 AUD for whiteline. that includes back and links. looking at the other bands some don't come with links and cost around the same when you pay for the links as well.. cycy89. do you still have the car?. have you changed them since then . what do you think of them from this date?.