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ZMan8 03-16-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 1603027)
OK... Image attached and I added the moment of inertia numbers.
BTW, don't expect it to match exactly to swaybar manufacturer's since it's it's the stiffness of the bar and does not factor in the hole positions on the ends.

:tup:

cycy89 03-16-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 1603027)
OK... Image attached and I added the moment of inertia numbers.
BTW, don't expect it to match exactly to swaybar manufacturer's since it's the stiffness of the bar and does not factor in the hole positions on the ends.

soo.. Eibach has the best sway bars?

B&W_Evader 03-16-2012 11:20 AM

My personal opinion, yes Eibach is the best. Technically they did it right. Especially if you want the real beafy sway bar at minimal weight penalty. Stillen is still a good choice too if you don't want it quite as stiff. If Whitelines were stock color and stock ends, it would be cool since Nissan might not notice them during warranty claims. I don't think the ends are stock looking though. If what I think is true, I think they're marketing them wrong by not having it an exact match look-wise.

ZMan8 03-16-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 1603112)
My personal opinion, yes Eibach is the best. Technically they did it right. Especially if you want the real beafy sway bar at minimal weight penalty. Stillen is still a good choice too if you don't want it quite as stiff. If Whitelines were stock color and stock ends, it would be cool since Nissan might not notice them during warranty claims. I don't think the ends are stock looking though. If what I think is true, I think they're marketing them wrong by not having it an exact match look-wise.

So are your figures basically the middle setting on these sway bars?

cycy89 03-16-2012 12:57 PM

my WLs are coming in today. i know im not gonna regret my choice :tup:
stiffest setting FTW! :driving:

B&W_Evader 03-16-2012 01:34 PM

These are the numbers I found on the different websites for settings.

OEM (Front 1.04 OD x .15 wall 560 lbs @ 1", Rear 0.945 OD x 0.13 wall, 540 lbs @ 1")
Stillen Sway bars $301.78 (Front +21/+48% 1.0625x0.250, Rear +37/+70% 1.0x0.188)
Whitelines Sway Bars (Front 27mm-solid $271, Rear 24mm-solid $240, End Links $167.70)
Hotchkis $475 (Front 35mm +205% tube, Rear 28.5mm +75% tube)
Eibach $529 (Front 32 (+76%/+117%), Rear 29mm (+67%/+98%/+130%))


Found the Eibach for $350 at tire rack. F&R: P/N 6393.320
Another site had them cheaper but didn't see anyone using them.

cycy89 03-17-2012 01:02 PM

Whiteline installation
 
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Originally Posted by B&W_Evader (Post 1603437)
Whitelines Sway Bars (Front 27mm-solid $271, Rear 24mm-solid $240, End Links $167.70)

My whiteline just came in yesterday and got them installed right away. I got them from a website $384 shipped. I didn't get the end links. Ordered on tuesday, came in on friday :tup:. Very good customer service. I actually ordered them last week but had some issues with Paypal, and they called me to help me with the issue. So I placed the order again on Tuesday they shipped them out right away :happydance:

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Stiffest setting!!
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Stiffest setting!!
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Installation wasn't bad at all. I was by myself and knocked them out in a few hours. took a dinner break in between 2 sway bars.
The front sway bar installation was just as easy as an oil change. My car is still pretty new so all the nuts came right off. if you have issues with rusted nuts just soak them with WD40 or rust busters.
The rear one was a bit more complicated. I have the single mid-pipe exhaust set up so it was a bit easier for me. I took out the screws on the strut bar on both sides, took one out on the rear, and loosed the other one and let it hanging there. then I took out 2 screws on the exhaust and let the mid pipe hanging. It might be more complicated with duel setup. Now just try to wiggle the stock sway bar out like a puzzle piece! Before you put the aftermarket one in make sure it's in the right direction and not the other way around... :ughdance: Make sure you grease up the bushings really well. And don't over torque!

I test drove around the neighborhood going 30mph after I was done installing them, I could definitely tell the steering was much more responsive! Going to test them out on the freeway today :driving:

EDIT: more pix

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Take off either one and loosen up the other one.
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PaulZ370 03-17-2012 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cycy89 (Post 1604840)

Dude - My Eibachs looked so much beefier, but then I guess the Whitelines are solid, so they don't have to be beefier, but the numbers on the Eibachs indicated that they are even tighter than the Whitelines... Did you consider Eibachs at all? and if so, what made you go with Whitelines instead? just curious....

cycy89 03-17-2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PaulZ370 (Post 1605483)
Dude - My Eibachs looked so much beefier, but then I guess the Whitelines are solid, so they don't have to be beefier, but the numbers on the Eibachs indicated that they are even tighter than the Whitelines... Did you consider Eibachs at all? and if so, what made you go with Whitelines instead? just curious....

ive heard a lot of good things about whiteline. two of my z friends have WL and they really like it. one of them had stillen before WL and didn't like it as much. And the shop that works on my car they recommend WL too. If you look at numbers the Eibachs are better. but i guess you have to try on different sway bars to say which one is better. I know the WL sway bars are not that thick compare to stock but they are really heavy. i'd probably picked Eibach if all my friends had them. haha. Oh and I got this really good deal on that website.

KaienZ34 03-17-2012 10:07 PM

I'm thinking about the stillen, i had the hotchkis but sold them. Since my car is about 98% street driving and 2% track driving i thought the hotchkis were a bit over kill for me.

B&W_Evader 03-19-2012 05:08 PM

My swaybar analysis obsession
 
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OK, put a few more pieces of information together on this one...
Minor correction on stock size (source Nissan website)
Addition of Nismo Sways (Nissan website)
Put the advertised stiffness in new column for easy reading
Found some additional pricing from distributor listings
Should make your sway bar decisions easier.

ZMan8 03-19-2012 05:32 PM

^ Nice chart! Thanks for posting it.

azza12311 11-20-2015 08:24 PM

I am thinking of going whiteline as well. its around $650 AUD for whiteline. that includes back and links. looking at the other bands some don't come with links and cost around the same when you pay for the links as well..
cycy89. do you still have the car?. have you changed them since then . what do you think of them from this date?.

cycy89 11-20-2015 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by azza12311 (Post 3352006)
I am thinking of going whiteline as well. its around $650 AUD for whiteline. that includes back and links. looking at the other bands some don't come with links and cost around the same when you pay for the links as well..
cycy89. do you still have the car?. have you changed them since then . what do you think of them from this date?.

Still have them and work fine! Car went through a lot since then lol

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azza12311 11-21-2015 05:39 AM

Sweet good to hear mate. looks like I will be ordering Whiteline then. yes I bet it has it has been a few years haha.



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Originally Posted by cycy89 (Post 3352010)
Still have them and work fine! Car went through a lot since then lol

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