What do you have to say about sway bars?

6MT · 03-02-2012, 10:51 PM

But what's the Best?

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-02-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

But what's the Best?

Like I said before... they are all good. It really depends what you want to do... figure out your driving style first. Do you plan on tracking or not? Things like that...
Hardcore track- whiteline and Hotchkis
Street, auto x and light track- Eibach and stillen. Eibach has the edge...

The others... I don't know. You would have to ask others with experience with them.

6MT · 03-03-2012, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by UNKNOWN_370

Like I said before... they are all good. It really depends what you want to do... figure out your driving style first. Do you plan on tracking or not? Things like that...
Hardcore track- whiteline and Hotchkis
Street, auto x and light track- Eibach and stillen. Eibach has the edge...

The others... I don't know. You would have to ask others with experience with them.

I was kidding. I always get a chuckle out of those type of questions: "what's the best?".

UNKNOWN_370 · 03-03-2012, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 6MT

I was kidding. I always get a chuckle out of those type of questions: "what's the best?".

Lol... I shoulda known.

axio · 03-02-2012, 11:35 PM

I also run Hotchkis, I have no complaints, I've never heard they were not recommended on this forum. Like Kaien said, they are big and beefy and work well

ZMan8 · 03-03-2012, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by axio

I also run Hotchkis, I have no complaints, I've never heard they were not recommended on this forum. Like Kaien said, they are big and beefy and work well

here is thread regarding hotchkis where people don't like them:

Whiteline Sway Bars are AMAZING

PaulZ370 · 03-12-2012, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by firstZ

Thanks for the info guys. I installed the fronts myself and the nuts were a pain. I had a hard time doing the rear so I took it to z1 motorsports. It feels much better than stock. I set the front to the softest setting and the rear was set in the middle. @ Paulz370, what setting are your eibachs set at?

I put mine at stiffest setting on both front and back. The car is still very responsive on quick side to side or "S" turns (that's the whole point of stiffer sway bars) , and I even tried to see if it will over-rotate if I pushed it, and I could.. the back end felt it was coming around and the VDC kicked in... so understeer at those settings did not appear to be a problem. I went home and did some Math (virtue of being an engineer) and here is what I come up with - very simple, but sorry if I bore you!

Stock Sway Bar settings: Front @ 416 lbs/Sq Inch, Rear @ 374 lbs/Sq Inch - Ratio Front to Back = 416/374 = 1.1123 or 11.23% Front being stiffer than Rear (Understeer Baseline)

Eibach Sway Bar Settings (Stiffest): Front @ 900 lbs/ Sq Inch, Rear @ 860 lbs/Sq Inch - Ratio Front to Back = 900/860 = 1.0465 or 4.65% Front being stiffer than Rear (Less Understeer than Stock Sway Bars by 6.58%)

So in effect, at the stiffest settings on the EIBACH's, I dialed out 6.58% less stiffness in the Front or that much less under-steer... AND now I also dialed out the little plowing as well... so she is solid but still turns on a dime... not a bad deal...

Alchemy · 03-03-2012, 11:38 AM

The Stillens are by far the best deal price wise. I actually havent installed mine yet so I cant give any personal opinions but I hear nothing but good things about the Stillen setup when used in a street application. I can tell you that they are heavier than the stock bars though.

ZMan8 · 03-03-2012, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Alchemy

The Stillens are by far the best deal price wise. I actually havent installed mine yet so I cant give any personal opinions but I hear nothing but good things about the Stillen setup when used in a street application. I can tell you that they are heavier than the stock bars though.

It seems all the aftermarket sway bars are heavier than OEM. However, that weight shouldn't be much more and is almost at lowest point on your car.

6MT · 03-03-2012, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMan8

It seems all the aftermarket sway bars are heavier than OEM. However, that weight shouldn't be much more and is almost at lowest point on your car.

And that should tell you something about the factory bars.

///MSH · 03-03-2012, 05:41 PM

I just installed a set of Stillen. My first AutoX for the year is tomorrow. Certainly I agree that for the price, Stillen would be hard to beat given they are slightly stiffer than my stock Nismo bars with enough adjustability to balance my car once I see how the car settles-out with my Hoosiers and my driving style.
I will say, a lot of debate can be had with regards to the purpose of sways....I personally subscribe to the theory that once you've finished all your majors suspension mods, sways are used to fine tune your F/R balance.
I will report on my impressions of the Stillen bars after I have some time to dial-in the car. Fitment was excellent.

cycy89 · 03-06-2012, 09:14 AM

Bump

firstZ · 03-09-2012, 05:08 AM

How long would you say it takes to install? Eibachs are coming in today!

cycy89 · 03-09-2012, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by firstZ

How long would you say it takes to install? Eibachs are coming in today!

if you have the right tools and have another person helping you it's not that difficult. look for sway installation DIY on the forum, people sometimes have their own little tips to make your life a lot easier!

good luck!

My whiteline should be coming in next week!

ZMan8 · 03-09-2012, 09:41 AM

I would think it should not take too long at all.

View Poll Results: Top choices of sways bars
Whiteline	60	28.17%
Hotchkis	48	22.54%
Cusco	12	5.63%
Eibach	47	22.07%
Stillen	36	16.90%
Tanabe	1	0.47%
Other	9	4.23%
Voters: 213. You may not vote on this poll

03-02-2012, 10:51 PM	#1 (permalink)
6MT A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: ITU Zone 2 Posts: 22,459 Drives: Reliant Robin Rep Power: 1790	But what's the Best? __________________ Andrew 2009 370Z Sport/Touring 6MT sold 2013 Honda Civic Si coupe D/D

03-02-2012, 11:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
axio Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SF Bay Area, CA Posts: 271 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 17	I also run Hotchkis, I have no complaints, I've never heard they were not recommended on this forum. Like Kaien said, they are big and beefy and work well __________________ GTM Stg II SC w/ Aquamist methanol injection, GTM oil cooler, Berk HFC, Stillen CBE, BC ER coilovers, Hotchkis sways, TWM short shifter, Clutch spring mod, CarboTech XP8s

03-03-2012, 11:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
Alchemy A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Jersey Age: 45 Posts: 4,855 Drives: to acquire tickets Rep Power: 3525	The Stillens are by far the best deal price wise. I actually havent installed mine yet so I cant give any personal opinions but I hear nothing but good things about the Stillen setup when used in a street application. I can tell you that they are heavier than the stock bars though. __________________ Ryan 314WHP \| 260LB-FT \| STILLEN \| KONI \| SWIFT \| STOPTECH \| Z1 \| PROJECT MU \| CNT \| UPREV \| FORGESTAR \| BRIDGESTONE \| PWJDM \| ENEOS \| MOTUL

03-03-2012, 05:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
///MSH Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Owasso, OK Posts: 86 Drives: '11 370Z Nismo Rep Power: 14	I just installed a set of Stillen. My first AutoX for the year is tomorrow. Certainly I agree that for the price, Stillen would be hard to beat given they are slightly stiffer than my stock Nismo bars with enough adjustability to balance my car once I see how the car settles-out with my Hoosiers and my driving style. I will say, a lot of debate can be had with regards to the purpose of sways....I personally subscribe to the theory that once you've finished all your majors suspension mods, sways are used to fine tune your F/R balance. I will report on my impressions of the Stillen bars after I have some time to dial-in the car. Fitment was excellent. __________________ 2011 Nismo with...Stillen Gen3 CAI, FI LTH's, Stillen CBE with Springfielddyno rear section. Stillen under drive crank pulley, UpRev, and LW flywheel. Penske 8300DA Valved by ANZE, SPR FCA's, Stillen F/R adj. sway bars, Enkei PF01's, and Hoosier A6's

03-06-2012, 09:14 AM	#12 (permalink)
cycy89 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: 120mph somewhere Posts: 1,097 Drives: #TTURBOZ Rep Power: 30	Bump __________________ Fast Intentions Twin Turbo Kit GT2860RS, 677WHP\|FI 34 row oil cooler\|F.I. CBE\|Fast 500E return fuel system\|FI trans cooler\|FI billet aluminum flex plate\|Excedy clutch packs\|ENKEI RP03\|BC BR coilovers\|SEIBON Carbon\|EVO-R Rear fog light\|GTR push start\|Whiteline sway bars, Diff bushing\|DSS axles\|ECUTekW/FlexFuelTune

03-09-2012, 05:08 AM	#13 (permalink)
firstZ Base Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: atlanta Posts: 30 Drives: 11 370Z touring Rep Power: 14	How long would you say it takes to install? Eibachs are coming in today!

03-09-2012, 09:41 AM	#15 (permalink)
ZMan8 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 5,844 Drives: 10 370z 40th M6 Rep Power: 659	I would think it should not take too long at all. __________________ 2010 370Z 40 Anniv., 6 MT \| Fast Intentions \| Swift Springs \| SPC \| Z1Motorsports \| JWM \| Redline Oils \| 35% Window Tint 2015 Mazda6 \| 370ZChicago: Chicago Area Cars & Coffee

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