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Old 03-07-2010, 05:46 PM   #76 (permalink)
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I actually don't know how much they dropped it to tell you the truth. lol. I should probably find out, huh?
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All this stuff with find the proper settings and spacers sounds complicated. LOL
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^^It's not. Just follow this link: Anyone have a setup of 15mm spacers in front and 20 rear?
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I just wanna know, how come I've never got a +1 before?!? lol.
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Thanks for the link. im reading it now.
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G35guy > Looking good...your drop seems pretty mild, maybe around 1.0" ?

Im at about 1.35" now and thats about as low as I can go. I too have the FI CBE and clearance has been an issue on certain speedbumps/driveways. Ive touched down the rear canisters ever so slightly twice now. No biggie though. Ill get around to writing up that review on these coilovers this weekend.

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G35guy > Looking good...your drop seems pretty mild, maybe around 1.0" ?

Im at about 1.35" now and thats about as low as I can go. I too have the FI CBE and clearance has been an issue on certain speedbumps/driveways. Ive touched down the rear canisters ever so slightly twice now. No biggie though. Ill get around to writing up that review on these coilovers this weekend.
That's why I won't buy that exhaust! I noticed that the first time the band wagen started and never got any response from my questions on lowered vehicles!! I drive the stink out of my cars and can't worry about that type of stuff! Anyway...enough about that!
I'm still not happy with the dampening on the Megan coilovers. Too much bouncing! That's not supposed to happen! I feel like vehicles next to me
are thinking I'm riding on ghetto cut springs or something!
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G35guy > Looking good...your drop seems pretty mild, maybe around 1.0" ?

Im at about 1.35" now and thats about as low as I can go. I too have the FI CBE and clearance has been an issue on certain speedbumps/driveways. Ive touched down the rear canisters ever so slightly twice now. No biggie though. Ill get around to writing up that review on these coilovers this weekend.
I'm dropped at 1 3/8", and I have also scraped the rear canisters twice now. But I at least know what not to go over.
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Hi,
I just bought preowned a 09 370 Touring and want to raise the suspension. The first owner had it lowered down a lot and so it scrapes at almost every speed bump, parking lot entrances, gas stations, malls...everywhere....

As you are in Houston itself like me, can you please advise me if any shops can do that? If I can get 1" lift up, that should be good...I went to Baker Nissan today and they said that because struts/shocks/springs are all aftermarket, they would charge me $3000 for that.....No way I can spend that kinda money.

Please email me back at talk2ashu@gmail.com

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Interesting. Are the height adjustments capable of getting closer to stock height? I'd like to stiffen up my car a bit (probably swaybars and maybe some chassis stuff first, but maybe some coilovers later), but I'm trying to avoid much drop. Ideally I'd like to stay within an inch of stock. The parking lot entrances around Houston suck, I scrape up the front spoiler pretty badly as it is, no matter how hard I try not to.
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Bummmmmmmp, looking to get a set of these.

Anymore current reviews/updates on these?

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Bummmmmmmp, looking to get a set of these.

Anymore current reviews/updates on these?

Thanks

I've been running Megan coil overs since they first released them for the 370z, something like August 2009. They work really well and they haven't leaked or needed to be rebuilt.

But...from the very beginning, they were too low. I wanted reply to this post with a pic, because the underside of my car is scraped up pretty badly; crossmembers, exhaust, front air dam, side rockers, exhaust tips.... Although, I don't have my car right now because it is at the detail shop for a few days getting detailed and the paint touhed up.

Initially, I called and talked to the People at Megan, asking if maybe I got a kit for the 350z or if they may have revamped the height after the initial product release. They told me "no, most of our customers like their cars very low and are happy with the height adjustability." I explained that my car was adjusted all the way up and that the front cross member was only 1.5" off of the pavement and the side rockers were only 2" from the pavement. They asked if I installed the kit myself. I told them no, that I had brig brand tires install them. They asked me to send pictures of the rear suspension to see how it was set up. I sent them pictures. Then, they told me that longer springs were in the works, but not currently available. I dropped the issue, but I was frustrated and not driving my car much because I would damage it every time I take it out.

Then in 2010, I sent my car to Stillen to have a supercharger put on it. I asked the people at Stillen to addres the issue. This was the response:


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Kyle,

Did you have your guys raise the shock length and spring length in relation to each other? Meaning that each is adjusted appropriately according to the other, e.g. shock length matches spring length. I am just trying to make sure the spring is not pre-loaded or anything like that.

As for the measurements, I will have to run over to our other warehouse where we have the lift and the 370Z tomorrow to get those measurements for you.

In the meantime, here are some visual photos of the spring and shock adjustments on a customer's vehicle:

http://www.meganracing.com/uploadIma...r/DSC00740.JPG

http://www.meganracing.com/uploadIma...r/DSC00742.JPG

I was not with the company when we got that customer's G37 for the test fit, but assuming it was adjusted correctly, with matching shock and spring heights, it should have at least 1-1.5" of adjustment higher than as photographed, since the spring is mounted that far in-board, that the shock-to-wheel rate ratio I'm sure is far from 1:1.

I will let you know what I find, in the meantime, would you take the same measurements of Dr. McNutt's shock? The measurement I will take is the amount of thread above the locking perch.

Thanks,

Arjay

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: photos of Larry Mcnutt's 370Z
From: "Kyle Millen" <kmillen@stillen.com>
Date: Wed, August 04, 2010 3:53 pm
To: "'Lawrence McNutt MD'" <ldmcnutt@hotmail.com>
Cc: <arjay@meganracing.com>

Gentlemen,

UPDATE: Looks like raising the shocks did not help after all.

We raised them this morning and it seemed to help however after a quick drive to make sure everything was good again the car settled down and was only 1/8” higher than previously.

Arjay,

On the vehicle that you guys have there you mentioned that there was 2.5” of thread on the spring perch showing. How much thread is on the shock body itself? My guys have raised it up an inch from where it was when the car came in and after it settle down a bit it the car went all the way back down to only 1/8” above its starting position…They are concerned that raising the shock further will increase the chances of bottoming out the shock.

Please advise us on how you would like us to proceed.

Thanks,

Kyle

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From: kmillen@stillen.com
> To: arjay@meganracing.com
> CC: ldmcnutt@hotmail.com
> Subject: photos of Larry Mcnutt's 370Z
> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:33:08 -0700
>
> Hello RJ,
>
> Here are some photos of the rear suspension on Dr. McNutt's 370Z. As you
> can see the rear ride height adjuster is as low as it can get and the car is
> about 1/2" too low. The problem is that the car is binding the rear end
> links and causing them to break at the ball joints. Dr. McNutt's has
> already installed a replacement set and they've broken again. We "fixed"
> them for him two weeks ago and they've already come apart within that time.
>
>
> We feel that the best way to resolve this issue would be to run a spring
> that is at least 1 inch longer, preferably two inches longer.
>
> Thanks for your time,
>
> Kyle Millen

Once I got my car back from Stillen, Megan racing was a lot less helpful to me and the trail went cold after all of those emails. I significantly tuncated the above email thread because it's a tedious read, but I have had over 100 email correspondances with Arjay from Megan racing. Then, in 2012, when starting to think about selling my 370z, I started emailing Megan again. I got the same run around. The same never ending trail of emails that never solved anything. Here's how my customer service experience went:

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Greetings Larry,




Never did I say your problem can't be solved. I gave you our offer already and you circumvented it. You keep insisting a longer spring is the solution for the front. I can't agree with that and made an effort to explain it. But I can't stop you from purchasing that. If you accept the offer, let me know. Anything other than that would have to go through my general manager once again (which was the original source of that offer).





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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: 370Z Rear Spring Options
From: Lawrence McNutt MD <ldmcnutt@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, March 21, 2012 12:59 pm
To: <arjay@meganracing.com>


Arjay,
This was from one of the many correspondences that you had with Stillen about my vehicle:



> From: kmillen@stillen.com
> To: arjay@meganracing.com
> CC: ldmcnutt@hotmail.com
> Subject: photos of Larry Mcnutt's 370Z
> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:33:08 -0700
>
> Hello RJ,
>
> Here are some photos of the rear suspension on Dr. McNutt's 370Z. As you
> can see the rear ride height adjuster is as low as it can get and the car is
> about 1/2" too low. The problem is that the car is binding the rear end
> links and causing them to break at the ball joints. Dr. McNutt's has
> already installed a replacement set and they've broken again. We "fixed"
> them for him two weeks ago and they've already come apart within that time.
>
>
> We feel that the best way to resolve this issue would be to run a spring
> that is at least 1 inch longer, preferably two inches longer.
>
> Thanks for your time,
>
> Kyle Millen
>
>
>
>

This problem, in addition to bottoming out on bumps, in addition to body damage, in addition to exhaust damage, in addition to not being able to get the vehicle in to most parking lots is why I want the vehicle higher. The front and rear are at the same height, which is around 1.5" lower than stock. If I raise the rear and leave the front like it is, it will cause more rake and put the nose even lower, which is unacceptable. If longer springs are not the solution to the problem in the front, then I would suggest that Megan racing has supplied the incorrect length front shock with the kit.

Even on the Megan Racing website, the product literature for the product I bought (MR-CDK-Z34) says "Height adjustments are made with separate CNC-Machined locking spring perches for accuracy and smooth adjustment with separate damper shock length adjustment to retain full-stroke and allows for precision suspension tuning. The wide range of allowable ride-height adjustment allows you to retain the factory ride-height for OEM appearance with performance handling, drop your car all the way down for an aggressive stance, or fine tune your suspension for the race-track to lowering your center of gravity to gain full potential of your vehicle's handling capabilities."

This product clearly will not allow me to retain the factory ride height. It is at the highest setting it can go, according to Big-O tire that installed the shocks and according to Kyle Millen at Stillen Motorosports who tried to help me troubleshoot the problems.

Please, No more explanations for why my problem can't be solved. Any mechanical issue can be solved. I just need solutions.

Thank you,

Larry







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From: arjay@meganracing.com
To: ldmcnutt@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: 370Z Rear Spring Options
Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 15:21:34 -0700


Greetings Lawrence,




In other words, for the rear, the longest, stiffest spring will keep the ride height higher. In the front, a longer shock is what is needed.





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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: 370Z Rear Spring Options
From: Lawrence McNutt MD <ldmcnutt@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, March 19, 2012 1:55 pm
To: "arjay@meganracing.com" <arjay@meganracing.com>


The information you just sent me is unrelated to what I asked, which is what do you suggest I do you get the ride height higher?




Thank you,




Larry




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On Mar 19, 2012, at 1:17 PM, arjay@meganracing.com wrote:






Greetings Lawrence,




Here are the specs of the shocks:

DAMPER SPECS:
F: 135mm stroke; 270mm length; A2 valving code
R: 155mm stroke; 260mm length; A1 valving code




135mm = 5.31" of stroke. Take away the bumpstop which should be 35mm and you have 100mm or about 4 inches of stroke.




In the rear, a longer spring will get it higher while the stiffer spring rate prevents the car from drooping from its weight ever so slightly. For your case, every little bit helps. For the front, you're not going to gain a lot of height from pre-loading the spring. A longer spring will get you more spring travel, not necessarily more ride height.





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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: 370Z Rear Spring Options
From: Lawrence McNutt MD <ldmcnutt@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, March 19, 2012 1:10 pm
To: "arjay@meganracing.com" <arjay@meganracing.com>


The front shocks have less than two inches of travel from where they sit while the vehicle is unladen until the air dam is touching down on the ground. My argument from the beginning was that he coil over shock system that was sold to me was too short and was not drive able and not useable. What you have said confirms my position. I still want the situation fixed. The car is not drivable because of damage that occurs to the bumpers, air dam, rocker panels door sills and crossmber, due to the car riding too low when the Megan Racing street coil over shock system is set to the highest ride height. What can we do to get the ride height higher in both front and rear? It currently sits 1.5" lower than stock in both the front and rear and it is too low to drive a concrete slab freeways like the 405 because the front crossmember hits the ground when going over the expansion joints. I also cant get it over driveways buillt with cement curbing because the nose will hit the ground. I can't take my car into the parking lot at my work because a 5% grade going into the parking lot hits the exhaust tips on the ground. It needs to be fixed. What do you suggest?




Thanks,




Larry





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On Mar 16, 2012, at 2:43 PM, arjay@meganracing.com wrote:






Greetings Lawrence,




Depending on how much pre-load there is on the suspension, the pre-load on the spring has more affect on the range of the stroke travel the suspension is using. It may raise the car ever so slightly, but length for length, the shock length is a better way of raising the car. There comes a point where there is as much preload that the weight of the car is not enough to overcome that pre-load. This is why to raise the car, the shock length is lengthened but has a limitation to how much it can be extended out of the lower bracket.




The rear is a different story because the spring and shock are mounted separately and are acting more independently from each other. Your rear is maxed out because you cannot raise the spring any further. Because of your particular request, a longer spring is what is needed. The length adjust-ability of the rear shock can account for the longer spring and higher ride height. At the front end, a longer shock is a more efficient way of raising the height as pre-load can have an affect on NVH of the vehicle.




Springs are offered in multiple lengths because each application is different. If two cars use a 12kg/mm spring, while one has a shorter stroke suspension than the other, it may need a 180mm spring or 160mm spring, whereas another application may need more stroke, even with a 12kg/mm spring and therefore would need a longer spring, 200mm or 220mm. The longer the spring, the more spring travel it has.





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788 PHILIPS DR.
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: 370Z Rear Spring Options
From: Lawrence McNutt MD <ldmcnutt@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, March 15, 2012 7:12 pm
To: "arjay@meganracing.com" <arjay@meganracing.com>


Arjay,

Im confused. If the springs are

Preloaded as far as the threads will allow, why would a longer spring not raise the car? And if a longer spring won't raise the car, then what is wrong with the shock design that prevents it? Also, if longer springs don't make any difference in ride height, then why do you guys have them in multiple lengths?




Thanks,




Larry




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On Mar 15, 2012, at 11:16 AM, arjay@meganracing.com wrote:






Greetings Lawrence,




They spoke with me. I would never have recommended longer springs up front, because there is no point. It will not raise the car, this is the point I was making. Please go ahead and send me the original purchase invoice. I already know it is past the 1-year warranty time-frame, but I will need the invoice regardless.





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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: 370Z Rear Spring Options
From: Lawrence McNutt MD <ldmcnutt@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, March 14, 2012 4:26 pm
To: "arjay@meganracing.com" <arjay@meganracing.com>


No, I need longer springs for the front and rear. As an aside, This is the same position I have taken since September 2010 when Stillen reported back to me that I would need longer springs for the front and rear. Their conclusion was based on their inspection and a phone conversation with someone at Megan Racing.




Thanks,




Larry



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On Mar 14, 2012, at 4:01 PM, arjay@meganracing.com wrote:






Greetings Lawrence,




So only the rear you want to address?





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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: 370Z Rear Spring Options
From: Lawrence McNutt MD <ldmcnutt@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, March 13, 2012 1:50 pm
To: "arjay@meganracing.com" <arjay@meganracing.com>


Ok, I'd like the springs that are +20 mm longer and +2 kg/mm spring rate, please.




Thanks,




Larry


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On Mar 13, 2012, at 1:45 PM, arjay@meganracing.com wrote:






Greetings Lawrence,




I gave you the list of spring options, but the ones we brought in that would get the car the highest, you did not like. It is a 20mm longer spring, +2kg/mm stiffer so the suspension does not compress as much.





Thank You,
Arjay
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: 370Z Rear Spring Options
From: Lawrence McNutt MD <ldmcnutt@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, March 13, 2012 9:23 am
To: <arjay@meganracing.com>


Let's backtrack. The pictures I sent you were ones that I uploaded to my photobucket account at the time my shop was installing them. I took pictures a year ago when we last had this dialog open, but I never sent the front ones. I only sent pictures of the rear. Anyways, after they were installed, the height was too low and I had my installer, (Big Brand Tire on Rosedale in Bakersfield) adjust bot the fronts and the rears to the maximum height. After that, I sent my car to Stillen to have them put a super charger on it. I wanted 9 psi boost and a 95 octane mix, so Steven Millen ended up driving my car out at El Toro because it was probably the highest hp setup they had done at that time. Steve ended up grooving my front tires from the lip on the fender wells, so I asked them to look at my suspension and they said it was adjusted as high as it could go, both front and back. They actually called and talked to you guys about options and they reported abck to me that I would need new springs. That was in Aug. 2010. Then I opened the dialog with you about getting new springs and we went back and forth on this issue until February 2011, then I gave up. I'm not giving up this time. I want longer springs for front and rear. I told you what spring rates I wanted and you said they werent availalable. So if what I asked for isn't available, what do you have for front and rear spring lengths and spring rates?

Thanks,

Larry





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From: arjay@meganracing.com
To: ldmcnutt@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: 370Z Rear Spring Options
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 13:10:35 -0700


Greetings Lawrence,




Longer front springs are not the solution. They can be pre-loaded to gain some height. As I've mentioned before, we have 230mm-010kg/mm springs in stock for the rear. However, not the 230-008 you were looking for. These were optional spring rates particularly for this application.





Thank You,
Arjay
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: 370Z Rear Spring Options
From: Lawrence McNutt MD <ldmcnutt@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, February 24, 2012 4:43 pm
To: <arjay@meganracing.com>


Arjay,
Thanks for your reply. I'm at work and because it's been a year since we last addressed this topic, I don't have pictures like that on my phone. Then I thought, I wonder if I put these on my photobucket? Sure enough, I had pictures of the front and back at time of install that I had posted to the 370z.com forum:

MeganRacingfront.jpg picture by ldmcnutt - Photobucket
frontadjust.jpg picture by ldmcnutt - Photobucket

MeganRacingrear.jpg picture by ldmcnutt - Photobucket
rearadjust.jpg picture by ldmcnutt - Photobucket


Thanks again,

Larry





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From: arjay@meganracing.com
To: ldmcnutt@hotmail.com
Subject: RE: 370Z Rear Spring Options
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:23:42 -0700


Greetings Larry,




I've notified my general manager of your entire situation and am awaiting his decision on this matter. You've provided pictures of the rear springs. Any of the front?





Thank You,
Arjay
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: 370Z Rear Spring Options
From: Lawrence McNutt MD <ldmcnutt@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, February 23, 2012 11:23 am
To: "arjay@meganracing.com" <arjay@meganracing.com>


Arjay,

I've been well. Busy with work and other projects. I have 4 vehicles,

So when an issue like this is around,

I frequently don't have the time or need to fix it. Ideally, I would like springs that are 30 mm longer than stock, but at the stock spring rate. Second choice is 40 mm longer than stock at the stock spring rate. Third choice is 20 mm longer than stock at the stock spring rate. The higher spring rates would be choices 4, 5 and 6 with the same preference to length.




Thanks,




Larry




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On Feb 23, 2012, at 11:17 AM, arjay@meganracing.com wrote:







Greetings Larry,




How have you been? It's been almost a year since I emailed you. I never got a reply from the last one. Did you ever decide on the spring?





Thank You,
Arjay
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-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: 370Z Rear Spring Options
From: Lawrence McNutt MD <ldmcnutt@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, February 22, 2012 6:29 pm
To: <arjay@meganracing.com>


Arjay,
Hi. Hopefully you are still working at Megan Racing. It has been over a year we since started this conversation. I'm only putting about 2,000 miles a year on my Nissan because of fear of damaging it, due to the the crossmember in the front and exhaust in the rear, touching down on everything from speed bumps to concrete expansion joints out on the open freeway. I either need to get rid of my Nissan or drive it, rather than just letting it sit for months at a time in my garage. So I need springs for front and rear that are at least 20 mm longer than stock. I see my options as 1) you guys send me the new springs either free of charge or free of charge with exchange for the existing springs. 2) you guys sell me the longer springs at a discounted price so that it doesn't approach the price of a conventional spring set. or 3) I buy conventional springs like Eibach and put my stock shocks back on it. If I have to go with option 3, I'm going to be unhappy and likely won't buy any more products from Megan. This product has been a fail from the beginning because at the highest setting, the fenders have put deep grooves into the front tires, the rocker panels have been scratched up badly from hitting concrete lips as I ender driveways sideways (I simply can't enter straight or the front will touch down so hard that all motion comes to a stop) and because the exhaust tips are ground down to where they are deformed. When the suspension is at it's lowest setting, the the door sills sit on the pavement and the car won't even roll. The springs (and potentially shocks) were too short from the very beginning. I haven't been able to get this resolved, despite mutiple phone calls and emails. Let's finish this up.

Thanks,

Larry



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From: arjay@meganracing.com
To: ldmcnutt@hotmail.com
Subject: 370Z Rear Spring Options
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:56:19 -0700




Hello Larry,




Below are 3 rear spring options for the rear.





Options

210-10-V

230-8-V

230-10-V




Again, the 210, 230 is the length of the spring, the second number is the spring rate in kg/mm.

230-8-V would be the same spring rate but 20mm longer than your current spring.





Thanks,
Arjay
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MEGAN RACING INC.
788 PHILIPS DR.
CITY OF INDUSTRY, CA 91748

Office Hours
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General Phone : +1 (626)581-0988
AIM : M2Arjay

To sum this all up, if the shocks and springs were 30-40 mm taller, they would be prefect from a pricing, performance and longevity standpoint. But, as the kits sits, they are a fail and their customer service is a fail and because of that, I won't be buying any products from Megan racing again.

-Larry
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One last thing that I forgot to mention was that in the end, I found a solution to the problem. When it came time to replace the tires, I went taller sidewall tires. By raising the sidewall profile by 5% over stock, It now has just barely accetpable clrearance for most situations. It's not ideal from a handling standpoint, but at least I'm not damaging the car anymore!
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I know there was a thread for Megan Racing coil overs, but I wanted it to be clear that this is about a real install with real results. The other thread just seemed to bash Megan Racing without much substance. The other Megan Racing coil over thread on this forum is in fact what spurred me to buy these coil overs. Maybe a leap of faith, but I try to support SoCal businesses since I live there and the product actually looked good in the pictures.

I agree that Megan Racing brings products to market at a low price point and the fit and finish is not as nice as more expensive brands, but I am concerned primarily with performance, not reputation or "wow factor". If I were, I would be driving a Porsche Cayman S for $70,000.

Down to the nitty gritty. The shocks were $900. The install went fine. No modifications were needed. The length of the shocks was fine. Some people have suggested they are too long because they are designed for the G37. They are not. When I first set them up, the car was almost 3" lower than stock. I couldn't even get it off the rack because it was so low. Total low rider show car, but not driveable.

I raised it to 1.75" lower than stock (picture below) and drove it for a while. It sucked:


It scraped the exhaust on speed bumps. It scraped the air dam on little bumps under braking. The front tires scraped on the fender liners during cornering or braking.

Then it raised it to 1.30" lower than stock (picture below):


Now it looks good and rarely scrapes (no full profile picture yet). It does touch down the Stillen exhaust on big speed bumps, even when I go sideways over them. It doesn't scrape the fender wells.

On to the damping characteristics.... They have 33 levels of adjust with 0-8 recommended for race, 9-18 for auto-x or hill climb and 19-32 for street. I told my installer to set them up for 9 at all 4 corners. They messed up and gave me 9 from softest, which is actually 23. It was a little softer than stock. I changed them to 8. It was too stiff for road use. It was bouncy and tiring. Traction control light would go off on entry to corners before apex because it was "skittering" around. I changed all 4 of them to #12 and they are now a bit stiffer than the C6 Z51 Corvette or C6 Z06 suspension, but ideal for what I call agressive street driving. I've had adjustable Koni's on a supercharged Mustang Cobra, TRD non-adjustable on my lowered Yaris and Pfadt's on my C6 Corvette. The damping characteristics and spring rates are similar to the Pfadt's, but superior to the Koni's and TRD's I have had in the past.

If This coil over system operates for 20,000 miles trouble free, I would give it the highest rating possible. I definitely like it and my 370z handles better than my C6 Corvette did with the Pfadt coil overs. If this system gives me problems, I will report them promtly. The least negative camber I can get with stock adjustability at this ride height is -2.5 degrees rear, -2.0 degrees front.

Here's front and rear install pictures:




Cheers!

-Phim
Do you have any side profile pics with it lowered 1.3" from stock
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