Brake Fade a risk for first time tracker?

brucelidat · 11-29-2011, 12:49 AM

NM my comment earlier on brake line prices, I was looking at sets earlier on another site that included the fluid, but didn't realize the z1 lines were priced just for lines, not as a kit

martin82 · 11-29-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600

So you want to kill your pads prematurely while getting no performance benefits out of it?

Reason I say that, my car has 1200 miles. I would like to kill the pads before throwing them away for new pads. I think 1 track day should be fine as long as I don't push it too hard. It will be willowsprings or buttonwillow.

seungklee · 11-29-2011, 03:19 PM

we should all set a track day to Streets of Willow or Big Willow and caravan together!

brucelidat · 11-29-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by seungklee

we should all set a track day to Streets of Willow or Big Willow and caravan together!

Sounds like a good idea.

cossie1600 · 11-29-2011, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by martin82

Reason I say that, my car has 1200 miles. I would like to kill the pads before throwing them away for new pads. I think 1 track day should be fine as long as I don't push it too hard. It will be willowsprings or buttonwillow.

pads dont rot, just keep it and use it whenever you are not at the track. there is no such thing as a dual purpose pad

martin82 · 11-29-2011, 04:57 PM

I was going to waste the stock pads and get more aggressive pads. I don't see a need to keep the stock pads once I change. I don't mind some pad squeals.

bullitt5897 · 11-29-2011, 06:15 PM

As a general rule:

If you track even just one time... Change to steel braided lines! and DOT4 fluids!

There is nothing like an OEM line that just pops off going down a straight into the last corner at 125mph and there is only 200ft of run off before you hit the tire wall! I have watched friends have this happen to them time and time again. Brakes are the items you need take the time to prepare them for the track... do not skimp on safety features!

seungklee · 11-29-2011, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

Sounds like a good idea.

we'll plan a day sometime next year, I have to do some preparations first

brucelidat · 11-29-2011, 06:38 PM

this thread makes me realize i do also

TopElement · 11-29-2011, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by seungklee

we should all set a track day to Streets of Willow or Big Willow and caravan together!

I'd be in for Streets. Would bring my Maxima since it's quicker around the track than my Nismo!

brucelidat · 11-29-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by topelement

i'd be in for streets. Would bring my maxima since it's quicker around the track than my nismo!

what!?

seungklee · 11-29-2011, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by brucelidat

what!?

^^This

seungklee · 11-29-2011, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TopElement

I'd be in for Streets. Would bring my Maxima since it's quicker around the track than my Nismo!

bring ur nismo! u can have someone else drive ur maxima and bring it too if u like...

corner3garage · 12-06-2011, 06:52 PM

If you are looking to bleed your brakes, we recommend Motul RBF 600. For maximum performance we also carry Motul RF660, ATE Super Blue and RF-650 from endless.

TopElement · 12-06-2011, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by seungklee

bring ur nismo! u can have someone else drive ur maxima and bring it too if u like...

Haha, the Maxima is actually the track car and i wouldn't let anyone else drive it! Roll cage, custom suspension, most body panels are carbon, AP Racing brakes, etc... Not the best platform to start with, but it's unique and runs 1:28's at Streets.

But back on the original topic, the stock pads and lack of cooling would likely be a problem even for most people new to track driving. Nismo pads are a good dd upgrade, but i'm waiting for better options to use at the track yet still streetable.
Ferodo ds2500 do well for double duty, ds3000 are even better at the track but not very good on the street unless heated up.
EBC Yellowstuff are also good for double duty.

11-29-2011, 12:49 AM	#31 (permalink)
brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	NM my comment earlier on brake line prices, I was looking at sets earlier on another site that included the fluid, but didn't realize the z1 lines were priced just for lines, not as a kit __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

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bullitt5897 Premium Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North GA Posts: 6,831 Drives: Twin Turbo Z34 Rep Power: 3682	As a general rule: If you track even just one time... Change to steel braided lines! and DOT4 fluids! There is nothing like an OEM line that just pops off going down a straight into the last corner at 125mph and there is only 200ft of run off before you hit the tire wall! I have watched friends have this happen to them time and time again. Brakes are the items you need take the time to prepare them for the track... do not skimp on safety features! __________________ *Shop Cars: 2013 318whp Nismo VspecII 370z SOLD, 2009 1000hp+ 93oct 4.0L TT 370z Fast Intentions STAGE 4 #054*

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brucelidat A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: temple city, ca Posts: 2,432 Drives: 2011 370z 7AT GM Sp Rep Power: 31	this thread makes me realize i do also __________________ Works Emotion CR Ultimate - FI CBE w/ 18" resonators - Ecutek - eibach sways - Quaife - FI LTH w/race cats - kw v3 - spl - Topgunz SC - 488whp 398trq

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corner3garage The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Laguna Hills, CA Posts: 9,879 Drives: 240sx, 350z, 370z Rep Power: 35	If you are looking to bleed your brakes, we recommend Motul RBF 600. For maximum performance we also carry Motul RF660, ATE Super Blue and RF-650 from endless. __________________ Corner3motorsports.com

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seungklee Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SoCal Posts: 291 Drives: you around! Rep Power: 16	we should all set a track day to Streets of Willow or Big Willow and caravan together!

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martin82 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: los angeles Posts: 2,636 Drives: 12 Nissan 370Z MB M6 Rep Power: 20	I was going to waste the stock pads and get more aggressive pads. I don't see a need to keep the stock pads once I change. I don't mind some pad squeals.