sway bars....

travisjb · 05-25-2009, 03:06 AM

I took plenty of phsyics and calculus in engineering school, but have NO INTEREST in correcting your math ! I think you're right, there's prob a difference in angle... forces are placed upon the wheel hubs, that's what the anti-sway bars are for... so, I suspect there is a force difference for asymmetric setups that has nothing to do with the angle at the hub/bar, and that this force difference across sides exists momentarily until the load is fully absorbed by the bar as torsion deflection... at that point, asymmetry is a non-issue... before that point, asymmetry may be an issue, but the thing I don't know is for how much time and does that translate into anything the driver would notice... honestly, we can dispense with all this discussion and just try it !!

and of course, worth going back to whiteline and asking them what they found if you're really curious

ChrisSlicks · 05-25-2009, 09:14 AM

I don't think instantaneous forces are a factor here, those would be so brief they would be unmeasurable and definitely not something the bar is going to have any effect on. The bar is designed to respond to continuous loads not micro bumps.

Now that I've thought about it a little more the asymmetry has more to do with the length of the lever arm being different on each end. The length of the bar will act as a single spring, however because the length of the lever is different on each side the resulting multiplier will be slightly different. So although the spring tension is equal across the length, the lever length twisting the bar is different.

05-25-2009, 03:06 AM	#1 (permalink)
travisjb A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: GSO Posts: 2,803 Drives: VIR Rep Power: 189	I took plenty of phsyics and calculus in engineering school, but have NO INTEREST in correcting your math ! I think you're right, there's prob a difference in angle... forces are placed upon the wheel hubs, that's what the anti-sway bars are for... so, I suspect there is a force difference for asymmetric setups that has nothing to do with the angle at the hub/bar, and that this force difference across sides exists momentarily until the load is fully absorbed by the bar as torsion deflection... at that point, asymmetry is a non-issue... before that point, asymmetry may be an issue, but the thing I don't know is for how much time and does that translate into anything the driver would notice... honestly, we can dispense with all this discussion and just try it !! and of course, worth going back to whiteline and asking them what they found if you're really curious __________________ 2009 370Z #104 For Sale

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05-25-2009, 09:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
ChrisSlicks A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: North East Posts: 6,203 Drives: 09 370Z Sport M6 Rep Power: 654	I don't think instantaneous forces are a factor here, those would be so brief they would be unmeasurable and definitely not something the bar is going to have any effect on. The bar is designed to respond to continuous loads not micro bumps. Now that I've thought about it a little more the asymmetry has more to do with the length of the lever arm being different on each end. The length of the bar will act as a single spring, however because the length of the lever is different on each side the resulting multiplier will be slightly different. So although the spring tension is equal across the length, the lever length twisting the bar is different.