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fuct 09-28-2011 08:50 AM

yea, glad your back on the road. and for free!

Ages 10-09-2011 11:47 AM

This happened to my2011sportZ also. it had 300~ miles on it.Nissan cut them and it was all gone. I am gonna replace rotors, these should have been Cross drilled/ slotted stock ><

370z_2910 06-10-2014 08:35 AM

reading all the members comment, most of them prefer resurfacing the rotors for the wrap problem.

are they any other solution in solving the wrap issue, other than resurfacing?

please comment on this.

2011 Nismo#91 06-10-2014 09:47 AM

Resurfacing will solve the problem 99% of the time. The vibration is typically caused by pads leaving deposits on the rotors making them uneven. The only real way to warp these rotors besides them being defective from the start is to hose them down immediately after some spirited driving.

Read T 06-10-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 2011 Nismo#91 (Post 2853067)
Resurfacing will solve the problem 99% of the time. The vibration is typically caused by pads leaving deposits on the rotors making them uneven. The only real way to warp these rotors besides them being defective from the start is to hose them down immediately after some spirited driving.

This is correct. It seems everyone here is arguing over warped v pad deposits. I have never seen a warped rotor. Does it matter? Not really, you treat them both the same way by having them turned or resurfaced or buying new ones.

Read T 06-10-2014 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Ages (Post 1350219)
This happened to my2011sportZ also. it had 300~ miles on it.Nissan cut them and it was all gone. I am gonna replace rotors, these should have been Cross drilled/ slotted stock ><

If you want to have your rotor crack, and one of your wheels completely stop spinning when you're at highway speed, which makes the steering wheel jump out of your hand and possibly break your thumb. Then yes, cross drilled rotors are what you need stock.

Read T 06-10-2014 10:07 AM

I am not an engineer, but have 2 friends who are brake engineers and I understand some things. This is a quote taken from me from another thread that no one has read haha.

Quote:

Short rant about brake discs:
1) Heat is the killer of brake systems, especially brake pads. The rotor is the main heat sink of the brake system. The heavier the rotor in general, the more heat it can soak up and keep the total system cooler. This makes brake pads last much longer since heat is what eats up pads. So heavier = better. Lightening rotational mass is nice and all, but being able to use your brake pads because they aren't burned down to the backing plate is better.
2) Slotted rotors are designed to help limit buildup on the rotor. Buildup on the rotor is what causes the steering wheel to shake when you hit the brake, I think it's kind of hard to actually warp a huge hunk of steel (I'm sure at temps as high as brakes get you can though. The vanes in rotors help cool them. Slots do not.
3) Cross drilled rotors make no sense to me. I already said rotors are a heat sink, and the more mass the more heat a rotor can soak up. Why would you drill holes in a rotor to lighten it then? Worse though is that cross drilled rotors crack.

370z_2910 06-11-2014 05:26 AM

if we replace the wrap rotors with other rotors, what will be good choice of rotors (brand) to replace with?

2011 Nismo#91 06-11-2014 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Read T (Post 2853099)
I am not an engineer, but have 2 friends who are brake engineers and I understand some things. This is a quote taken from me from another thread that no one has read haha.

I agree, though slots and holes are more for removing gas buildup between pad and rotor rather than reducing mass, which is more of a side effect. Gas buildup was a problem with pads a decade ago, not so much now days.

6MT-Z34 06-11-2014 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by 370z_2910 (Post 2854405)
if we replace the wrap rotors with other rotors, what will be good choice of rotors (brand) to replace with?

Z1 2 piece rotors

2011 Nismo#91 06-11-2014 12:28 PM

You don't really need 2 piece rotors, they are for if you track your car often. OEM disk or similar will work fine. Best upgrade you can do it the pads/fluid.

370z_2910 06-14-2014 10:19 PM

how about the stillen brake cooling?

does it help to prevent the rotor wrap?

370z_2910 06-14-2014 10:20 PM

how about the stillen brake cooling?

does it help to prevent the rotor wrap?

K370Z 07-09-2014 05:03 PM

Could you confirm if your tyres are starting to get close to needing replaced as the vibration through the steering is a common problem when the tyre get low.

kenchan 07-10-2014 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by K370Z (Post 2889674)
Could you confirm if your tyres are starting to get close to needing replaced as the vibration through the steering is a common problem when the tyre get low.

geez, how low are you running your tires? :ugh: until air leaks out?

kenchan 07-10-2014 10:48 AM

yah, when my tires blow up due to no more rubber left, it automatically notifies me through the steering wheel per vibrations. so then i know its time to change tires.

Plasmite 07-10-2014 04:46 PM

I ran my '83 200sx brakes till my rear rotors were like two Pink Floyd albums. They were groovy baby. I wasn't able to resurface them though, wasn't enough material left :(

Read T 07-18-2014 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 370z_2910 (Post 2859615)
how about the stillen brake cooling?

does it help to prevent the rotor wrap?

Rotors shouldn't be warping, even under race conditions. They can get build up unevenly on them. Either way, for day to day driving you shouldn't need brake ducting. If so, I'd say this would be a huge liability and nissan would have put out a recall for safety long ago. Maybe try getting different pads.

370z_2910 07-19-2014 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Read T (Post 2900859)
Rotors shouldn't be warping, even under race conditions. They can get build up unevenly on them. Either way, for day to day driving you shouldn't need brake ducting. If so, I'd say this would be a huge liability and nissan would have put out a recall for safety long ago. Maybe try getting different pads.

i've already replaced the oem rotors with the stoptech cross and ventalited discs.
also, i've installed the oem brake pads with project mu b-pads.

with the upgraded rotors and pads, my z still getting the same wraped problem as the previous oem parts.

just wondering, if either the brake duct or bbk might help with wraped issues.

comments...

Spooler 07-19-2014 10:29 PM

Warping rotors has to do with your driving style. Some folks are bad about it and others are not. If the brakes are the least bit weak, I will warp them every time. Best thing to do is upgrade if this fits your wonderful abilities. Nissan has always been known for warping rotors.

Read T 07-20-2014 03:14 PM

As noted above he has replaced those parts.

Just a thought, but who's installing the pads/rotors. Improperly installed pads could create uneven wear on the rotors and get them out of balance. I still find it VERY hard to believe you are getting enough heat in your rotors during daily driving to actually warp them. I can't even do that on the track or autocross when my brakes are being used HEAVILY. Do you live in mountains or drag the brakes a bunch?

cossie1600 07-20-2014 03:48 PM

Most people can't even tell the difference between a warped disc and pad deposit....

Read T 07-20-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 2902326)
Most people can't even tell the difference between a warped disc and pad deposit....

True, and the fix for both is the same (resurface or replace rotors). It's just semantics really. But again, probably not warping those rotors.

370z_2910 07-22-2014 04:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Read T (Post 2902309)
As noted above he has replaced those parts.

Just a thought, but who's installing the pads/rotors. Improperly installed pads could create uneven wear on the rotors and get them out of balance. I still find it VERY hard to believe you are getting enough heat in your rotors during daily driving to actually warp them. I can't even do that on the track or autocross when my brakes are being used HEAVILY. Do you live in mountains or drag the brakes a bunch?

may i know what type of rotor and brake brands are you using?

Read T 07-22-2014 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 370z_2910 (Post 2903994)
may i know what type of rotor and brake brands are you using?

For Daily Driving: OEM rotors and PFC OEM replacement Pads, PFC 665 Fluid, Ventus V12
On the Track: Z1 slotted rotors (BPI) and PFC 08 or 01 Race Pads, PFC 665 Fluid, Kuhmho XS 275 all around

I was a little weary of Z1s rotors at first, hopeing I wouldn't pull a Lewis Hamilton, but they have done great at the track.

cwatkins 08-14-2015 09:38 PM

brake jubber!!
 
I am experiencing the same problem also. I replace the rotors and pads but still getting "brake jubber". Ill try bleeding the brake to see if that resolves the problem

370z_2910 09-18-2015 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by cwatkins (Post 3285537)
I am experiencing the same problem also. I replace the rotors and pads but still getting "brake jubber". Ill try bleeding the brake to see if that resolves the problem

any update on solving your brake issues...


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