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ddvette9 09-01-2011 11:42 PM

Most probable spring w no need for cam kit
 
Desperatly want a drop. But want a DD drop (no track) and I want to take it to get aligned after and never bother with the springs again. Don't want to spend hundreds more on camber kits to still have the numbers slightly off. I am a student with a few hundred bucks plus install with a hope of getting a drop and a 75$ alignment and going about my business.

Is this probable/ likely and chime in if you have found a simple solution that works for DD on factory everything else

If no, kindly educate me if I may be making a mistake. I do t wanna be flamed hopefully there is some people to help

BTW I know this is not an area to cheap out or experiment with but figured I'd poll the community to see how I can achieve my goal

the_student 09-02-2011 03:56 AM

Eibach springs should be fine for a mild drop. Swift springs have really good reviews and that drop is a little more lower, not sure about if they need camber kits.

fuct 09-02-2011 02:32 PM

i went with Tein springs and H&R spacers. $420 total in parts and did the work myslef. with the nismo wheels and tires i can get 18k miles on my tires daily driven. i dont have a camber kit..... yet

KamiSpeed 09-02-2011 03:04 PM

I'd say Tein or Eibach, the Swift are the lowest I know of but those sometimes require a camber kit, so something with less drop will decrease those chances

tsolin01 09-02-2011 03:14 PM

The problem is, the more you drop, the more camber it will induce. The fronts have no camber adjustments at all so you're stuck with whatever you get there and the rears can be adjusted a little. That might not be enough to get you to stock specs though if you go really low.

I suggest you figure out how low you want to go and whether you can live with some camber. If you just want piece of mind, get a camber kit regardless.

ZCarMan 09-02-2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KamiSpeed (Post 1295294)
I'd say Tein or Eibach, the Swift are the lowest I know of but those sometimes require a camber kit, so something with less drop will decrease those chances

I agree.

Red__Zed 09-02-2011 10:12 PM

I'm gonna go ahead and toss out that I put 6k on my tires so far with the swifts and no camber kit, and my wear has been literally perfect.

edge573 09-06-2011 08:54 PM

I just put on Tein springs and after the alignment was all in spec. no camber kit for me.

ddvette9 09-06-2011 09:33 PM

Can you notice the drop from quick glance or plain view or is it very subtle. Part of my thinking was any spring not needing a camber kit bc of mild drop was also one without a noticeable drop where someone driving on the highway could see the drop

Red__Zed 09-06-2011 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ddvette9 (Post 1300627)
Can you notice the drop from quick glance or plain view or is it very subtle. Part of my thinking was any spring not needing a camber kit bc of mild drop was also one without a noticeable drop where someone driving on the highway could see the drop

here's what my drop looks like on swifts.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3...1/DSC_0128.jpg

hdskull 09-07-2011 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ddvette9 (Post 1300627)
Can you notice the drop from quick glance or plain view or is it very subtle. Part of my thinking was any spring not needing a camber kit bc of mild drop was also one without a noticeable drop where someone driving on the highway could see the drop

The swift drop is definitely noticeable

cheshirecat 09-07-2011 09:13 AM

Tein or Eibach. You need a rear camber (and sometimes toe) kit to get back into OEM spec with Swifts. H&R are even lower and require a kit.

kenchan 09-07-2011 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by tsolin01 (Post 1295307)
The problem is, the more you drop, the more camber it will induce. .

yep and if the springs are progressive rate who knows much it will drop after you get gas or even have a passenger onboard.
just get the camber kit for the rear.

DJ-of-E 09-07-2011 12:00 PM

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I am a student with a few hundred bucks plus install with a hope of getting a drop and a 75$ alignment and going about my business.
IMHO, I don't see the point if owning a expensive sports car (especially the Z) when you worried about how to pay for the stuff to do it right. :shakes head:

Cars are expensive stuff, if you're worried about how much it cost to mod it, why not just don't mod it at all until you're not so worried financially since you're still in college.

ddvette9 09-07-2011 04:05 PM

^^^^^^^ I love this forum but am tired of everyone starting a budget thread and then having a flamer preach about fiscal responsibility and try and lecture on the topic. The question didn't ask about your theory on my finances and how I should spend them. The fact is, whether you are a teacher or Bill Gates, the consumer should be smart and educated with their purchases, as money doesn't grow on trees. Having more or less money doesn't result in one being deemed cheap or willing to gamble on prices, it just merely means that some consumers shop smart. Could I buy 2,500 coilovers, sure, but if I can be happy with 200$ springs and an alignment, then having more money doesn't justify spending more money. I did not mean to get off topic because this discussion was helping me greatly, but it seems with all topics related to ebay purchases, classifieds, special deals, budget routes or conservative spending practices, some member decides to break the rhythm of the thread by asking or mentioning "you have a sports car spend the money, or you spent 30k on your car so spend the money". Enough with this wannabe parental intervention. Answer the thread question or refrain from interrupting the flow, you just bring unwanted attention to yourself.

Now back to the topic, fire away guys, so far your help and pics have been great :tup:


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