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Originally Posted by fuct bull poop... you cant adjust front camber.... if you lowered the front the camber changed. how is it back to factory spec? Pretty much everybody sees

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Old 09-12-2011, 03:59 PM   #1 (permalink)
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bull poop... you cant adjust front camber.... if you lowered the front the camber changed. how is it back to factory spec?
Pretty much everybody sees this result...front camber changes very little with a drop. I was well in spec.

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the camber spec is important...... (am i missing something?)
Do you think there is a sharp cutoff or something?

Again, I ran 2.6 degrees and saw totally even wear. Saw outside wear on the factory 1* setting.
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Pretty much everybody sees this result...front camber changes very little with a drop. I was well in spec.



Do you think there is a sharp cutoff or something?

Again, I ran 2.6 degrees and saw totally even wear. Saw outside wear on the factory 1* setting.

if you did thats amazing!!! can you snap a pic of your wore tires next time you change them. id love to see how -2.6 camber in the rear causes even tire wear..

again it must be the wider tires and wheel on the nismo, if EVERYONE is seeing the same thing.

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Tein or Eibach. You need a rear camber (and sometimes toe) kit to get back into OEM spec with Swifts. H&R are even lower and require a kit.
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I am a student with a few hundred bucks plus install with a hope of getting a drop and a 75$ alignment and going about my business.
IMHO, I don't see the point if owning a expensive sports car (especially the Z) when you worried about how to pay for the stuff to do it right.

Cars are expensive stuff, if you're worried about how much it cost to mod it, why not just don't mod it at all until you're not so worried financially since you're still in college.
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^^^^^^^ I love this forum but am tired of everyone starting a budget thread and then having a flamer preach about fiscal responsibility and try and lecture on the topic. The question didn't ask about your theory on my finances and how I should spend them. The fact is, whether you are a teacher or Bill Gates, the consumer should be smart and educated with their purchases, as money doesn't grow on trees. Having more or less money doesn't result in one being deemed cheap or willing to gamble on prices, it just merely means that some consumers shop smart. Could I buy 2,500 coilovers, sure, but if I can be happy with 200$ springs and an alignment, then having more money doesn't justify spending more money. I did not mean to get off topic because this discussion was helping me greatly, but it seems with all topics related to ebay purchases, classifieds, special deals, budget routes or conservative spending practices, some member decides to break the rhythm of the thread by asking or mentioning "you have a sports car spend the money, or you spent 30k on your car so spend the money". Enough with this wannabe parental intervention. Answer the thread question or refrain from interrupting the flow, you just bring unwanted attention to yourself.

Now back to the topic, fire away guys, so far your help and pics have been great
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^^^^^^^ I love this forum but am tired of everyone starting a budget thread and then having a flamer preach about fiscal responsibility and try and lecture on the topic. The question didn't ask about your theory on my finances and how I should spend them. The fact is, whether you are a teacher or Bill Gates, the consumer should be smart and educated with their purchases, as money doesn't grow on trees. Having more or less money doesn't result in one being deemed cheap or willing to gamble on prices, it just merely means that some consumers shop smart. Could I buy 2,500 coilovers, sure, but if I can be happy with 200$ springs and an alignment, then having more money doesn't justify spending more money. I did not mean to get off topic because this discussion was helping me greatly, but it seems with all topics related to ebay purchases, classifieds, special deals, budget routes or conservative spending practices, some member decides to break the rhythm of the thread by asking or mentioning "you have a sports car spend the money, or you spent 30k on your car so spend the money". Enough with this wannabe parental intervention. Answer the thread question or refrain from interrupting the flow, you just bring unwanted attention to yourself.

Now back to the topic, fire away guys, so far your help and pics have been great
Well if this is the case, lets put it this way. If you dont intend on investing on a camber kit, then don't bother lowering your car.

Im running swift springs on my car and I didnt need a camber kit to get it to factory specs, but I got them anyways for a bigger range of adjustments. All cars lowers slightly differently even if the same springs are purchased. If you read the Swift thread you will see that some people needed camber kits and some didnt, but either way it's a must have.

So if camber kits does not fit into your budget save and wait to lower your car. It doesnt matter if you go with coilovers or shocks and springs, your going to need a camber kit.
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Well if this is the case, lets put it this way. If you dont intend on investing on a camber kit, then don't bother lowering your car.

Im running swift springs on my car and I didnt need a camber kit to get it to factory specs, but I got them anyways for a bigger range of adjustments. All cars lowers slightly differently even if the same springs are purchased. If you read the Swift thread you will see that some people needed camber kits and some didnt, but either way it's a must have.

So if camber kits does not fit into your budget save and wait to lower your car. It doesnt matter if you go with coilovers or shocks and springs, your going to need a camber kit.
How does this make sense? "some people needed camber kits and some didnt, but either way it's a must have."??

I kinda agree with the OP... a lot of people on this forum think that the Z is such an expensive car that anyone that doesn't buy $2,000 tires doesn't belong driving the car. Realistically the Z is NOT that expensive of a sports car. You can buy a used 09 for low 20s now, even fully loaded new you aren't talking much more than high 30s low 40s which isn't outrageous.

I don't personally think there is anything wrong with the OP buying springs that might result in a less likely chance of needing a camber kit. If he ends up needing one he is then faced with the dilema of ruining tires or buying the kit but if it is worth the risk to him so be it. I personally plan on buying springs or coils, checking my alignment and then deciding whether or not I need a camber kit.

OP I think your question has been answered... the lower the drop the more likely you'll need the kit... has nothing to do with brand, just drop size. Swifts seem to be the limit, anything with a shorter drop you should probably be able to get away with, just keep an eye on your tire wear for uneven-ness (is that a word?).
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How does this make sense? "some people needed camber kits and some didnt, but either way it's a must have."??

I kinda agree with the OP... a lot of people on this forum think that the Z is such an expensive car that anyone that doesn't buy $2,000 tires doesn't belong driving the car. Realistically the Z is NOT that expensive of a sports car. You can buy a used 09 for low 20s now, even fully loaded new you aren't talking much more than high 30s low 40s which isn't outrageous.

I don't personally think there is anything wrong with the OP buying springs that might result in a less likely chance of needing a camber kit. If he ends up needing one he is then faced with the dilema of ruining tires or buying the kit but if it is worth the risk to him so be it. I personally plan on buying springs or coils, checking my alignment and then deciding whether or not I need a camber kit.

OP I think your question has been answered... the lower the drop the more likely you'll need the kit... has nothing to do with brand, just drop size. Swifts seem to be the limit, anything with a shorter drop you should probably be able to get away with, just keep an eye on your tire wear for uneven-ness (is that a word?).
I apologize. I worded it wrong.

All Im trying to say is that Camber kits are something that should be bought either way. Its not that expensive, and what is the point in getting the vehicle lowered, and then potentially having to pay for an alignment twice with the added cost of the camber kit just to see if the vehicle can be put back into spec.
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^^^ agreed^^ just because people can finance a 30k car doesnt mean they sh*t $100 bills
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What's with the obsession with getting the car within "spec"? The factory spec is awful.
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What's with the obsession with getting the car within "spec"? The factory spec is awful.
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the camber spec is important...... (am i missing something?)
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If you have aggressive rims and tires you will need a camber kit to get it back to factory specs even with an Eibach drop. I did anyways. You can always do the drop and drive it for a week and see how the dirt is sticking to your tires. If the insides are clean you definitely need a camber kit. Not the most accurate way to measure it though.
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rear camber arms are about $210 and can go in when the springs go in... not that expensive in my opinion so that would resolve your worries OP
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Camber isn't really what you need to worry about. Toe is much more important. However, adjusting camber DOES affect toe.
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