Getting lowered without springs?

vividracing · 07-29-2011, 12:27 PM

I'm not trying to be rude, but I've been involved with this industry for a decade. Vivid Racing has been in business for a decade. I worked for a suspension company for 2 years before coming to Vivid.

What your asking to do is not possible, without redesigning suspension components. Sure, on old VWs you can adjust the torsion bars but modern cars don't use torsion bars.

The reason I'm posting is because I don't want to see you doing something unsafe or damage your car just to get a few mm lower. And honestly, re-torqueing all of your suspension is only going to get you a FEW mm lower. As in 1-3mm.

Why is it that you're so against lowering springs?

tjlazer · 07-29-2011, 12:30 PM

If you don't want to lower 1.2 inches you can get springs that lower less like RS*R or Tein H Tech. They lower about .5 to 1" That is what I would do, don't mess with the suspension.

Ron · 07-29-2011, 12:34 PM

couldn't agree more with both of the last 2 posts

cossie1600 · 07-29-2011, 12:59 PM

Sure you can do it, cut the springs

tjlazer · 07-29-2011, 01:09 PM

and you can do it by removing air from tires, removing springs, putting a lot of weight in the car.... lol

vividracing · 07-29-2011, 01:20 PM

I'd like to hear the OPs reason for avoiding springs, because more than likely, it's going to come down to ride quality. A GOOD lowering spring, paired with a proper shock, won't have this issue

Synack · 07-29-2011, 02:34 PM

OH MY LORD!! Who said I was against lowering springs?! I was about to buy f*cking coilovers! Jesus christ.

Sorry for the blow up but everyone thinks I'm trying to go cheap or something and not get springs. Maybe I only wanted a few millimeters like that other guy suggested. To further clarify, I have the funds to do any of these options. I was looking for an answer like justice's in my original question.

You can relate my question to someone who wants a bit more horsepower, not 150whp, not 50whp, but maybe 5whp for not that big of an effort. The answer in that case is high flow air filters and not a GTM Twin Turbo kit.

KamiSpeed · 07-29-2011, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synack

OH MY LORD!! Who said I was against lowering springs?! I was about to buy f*cking coilovers! Jesus christ.

Sorry for the blow up but everyone thinks I'm trying to go cheap or something and not get springs. Maybe I only wanted a few millimeters like that other guy suggested. To further clarify, I have the funds to do any of these options. I was looking for an answer like justice's in my original question.

You can relate my question to someone who wants a bit more horsepower, not 150whp, not 50whp, but maybe 5whp for not that big of an effort. The answer in that case is high flow air filters and not a GTM Twin Turbo kit.

well if you need prices on anything let me know

cossie1600 · 07-29-2011, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vividracing

I'd like to hear the OPs reason for avoiding springs, because more than likely, it's going to come down to ride quality. A GOOD lowering spring, paired with a proper shock, won't have this issue

wait a second, you telling me i shouldnt use the stock shocks when i put springs that are 30 to 50% stiffer

Synack · 07-29-2011, 03:21 PM

If I did buy springs they would definitely be Swifts. I like the whole notion of soft while DD'ing and stiff when driving hard. That sounds perfect. I just wish they didn't drop it as much as they do. The only drop I want it about .3 -.4 in the front and maybe .1 in the rear. The front just looks like its up too high compared to the rear.

DJ-of-E · 07-29-2011, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synack

If I did buy springs they would definitely be Swifts. I like the whole notion of soft while DD'ing and stiff when driving hard. That sounds perfect. I just wish they didn't drop it as much as they do. The only drop I want it about .3 -.4 in the front and maybe .1 in the rear. The front just looks like its up too high compared to the rear.

Call up a shop and put an order with with Swift for that request. I think swift should be able to handle that request, but it may cost extra and you may need to wait a while.

Synack · 07-29-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

Call up a shop and put an order with with Swift for that request. I think swift should be able to handle that request, but it may cost extra and you may need to wait a while.

I will see into this.

Super Moderator II · 07-29-2011, 04:03 PM

07-29-2011, 12:27 PM	#46 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 38 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 39	I'm not trying to be rude, but I've been involved with this industry for a decade. Vivid Racing has been in business for a decade. I worked for a suspension company for 2 years before coming to Vivid. What your asking to do is not possible, without redesigning suspension components. Sure, on old VWs you can adjust the torsion bars but modern cars don't use torsion bars. The reason I'm posting is because I don't want to see you doing something unsafe or damage your car just to get a few mm lower. And honestly, re-torqueing all of your suspension is only going to get you a FEW mm lower. As in 1-3mm. Why is it that you're so against lowering springs? __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

07-29-2011, 12:30 PM	#47 (permalink)
tjlazer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tacoma Age: 53 Posts: 2,496 Drives: Z34, R35 Rep Power: 19	If you don't want to lower 1.2 inches you can get springs that lower less like RS*R or Tein H Tech. They lower about .5 to 1" That is what I would do, don't mess with the suspension. __________________ 2009 370Z Monterey Blue,Nismo Conversion,RE-11's, K&N Typhoon intakes,Blue Kickplates,Homelink,FI 18" CBE,ERZ HFCs,Hotchkis sways, Swift Spec-R, EVO-R Highwing, UPREV

07-29-2011, 01:09 PM	#50 (permalink)
tjlazer A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tacoma Age: 53 Posts: 2,496 Drives: Z34, R35 Rep Power: 19	and you can do it by removing air from tires, removing springs, putting a lot of weight in the car.... lol __________________ 2009 370Z Monterey Blue,Nismo Conversion,RE-11's, K&N Typhoon intakes,Blue Kickplates,Homelink,FI 18" CBE,ERZ HFCs,Hotchkis sways, Swift Spec-R, EVO-R Highwing, UPREV

07-29-2011, 01:20 PM	#51 (permalink)
vividracing The370Z.com Sponsor Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Gilbert, AZ Age: 38 Posts: 7,306 Drives: 350Z,370Z,GTR Rep Power: 39	I'd like to hear the OPs reason for avoiding springs, because more than likely, it's going to come down to ride quality. A GOOD lowering spring, paired with a proper shock, won't have this issue __________________ Rocky @ Vivid ♦ 480.966.3040 x236 ♦ Rocky@vividracing.com Email, PM, or call me directly for aggressive The370Z.com member pricing!!!

07-29-2011, 02:34 PM	#52 (permalink)
Synack A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Houston Age: 36 Posts: 1,012 Drives: Sideways Rep Power: 16	OH MY LORD!! Who said I was against lowering springs?! I was about to buy fcking coilovers! Jesus christ. Sorry for the blow up but everyone thinks I'm trying to go cheap or something and not get springs. Maybe I only wanted a few millimeters like that other guy suggested. To further clarify, I have the funds to do any of these options. I was looking for an answer like justice's in my original question. You can relate my question to someone who wants a bit more horsepower, not 150whp, not 50whp, but maybe 5whp for not that big of an effort. The answer in that case is high flow air filters and not a GTM Twin Turbo kit. __________________ NO LONGER OWNS A 370* Turbo FR-S Last edited by Synack; 07-29-2011 at 02:40 PM.

07-29-2011, 12:34 PM	#48 (permalink)
Ron A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,009 Drives: TT '11 PW Nismo #113 Rep Power: 22	couldn't agree more with both of the last 2 posts

07-29-2011, 12:59 PM	#49 (permalink)
cossie1600 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: californee way Posts: 5,380 Drives: 370, Leaf Rep Power: 30	Sure you can do it, cut the springs

07-29-2011, 03:21 PM	#55 (permalink)
Synack A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Houston Age: 36 Posts: 1,012 Drives: Sideways Rep Power: 16	If I did buy springs they would definitely be Swifts. I like the whole notion of soft while DD'ing and stiff when driving hard. That sounds perfect. I just wish they didn't drop it as much as they do. The only drop I want it about .3 -.4 in the front and maybe .1 in the rear. The front just looks like its up too high compared to the rear. __________________ NO LONGER OWNS A 370 Turbo FR-S

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