Nismo - Swift Spec R Springs - Front Only???
 

Gang,

I have noticed that the Nismo Z sits a little higher to the front than other models. This kinds of bugs me, I would like to rectify this...I have read that the Swift Spec R coil overs are a great after market spring to use for the Nismo. I really don't want to lower the back anymore than stock, would it be okay just to change out the front only?

Does anyone see an issue with using only swapping out the front springs only? Will this upset the balance of the car during hard cornering? Possible chatter? Any information, issues or other options would be appreciated.

Thanks,

V.

:facepalm:

Swift Spec-R are just springs. But you would want to (and have to) install them on all four corners.

It wont be too low. so DO IT! :icon17:

Thanks Mandingo, I just wanted to be sure, I have had the car for three weeks and this forum has been a great help so far. I will read more into the suspension thread to get a full understanding of using just springs versus coil overs.

One final question, how much of a drop should I expect by using the Spec R springs only?

V.

V, as Mandingo noted, those are only springs so I would go with his reasoning. Expect somewhere around a 1" drop (I did make a drastic difference on my car). You may or may not need front camber arms once the springs settle and at the time of alignment - not required but won't hurt if you want to keep even tire wear. Please let us know how to works for you.

:confused: Not sure about the need/purpose of the post other than increasing your post count ... maybe?

If you are not sure why a :facepalm: icon is there I will elaborate for you:tiphat:

1.If the OP knows how to install springs and he is asking this question then he shouldn't be putting them in!
2.If the OP couldn't install springs and went to pay someone who knew how then his question would be answered.
3.And if you knew enough about cars to install springs then you wouldn't have to ask why did you put the :facepalm: icon up.
4.But thanks for asking now my post count has gone up by 2:tiphat:

Baer, too many "if" statements when you could have simply answered the question and moved on - That's where I was going with that. The OP had a question that you (with your advanced car knowledge) could have put to rest in far fewer words in between your 2 posts. Look man, no fighting here, power to you for your post count, I'm absolutely elated for you, I truly am :tup:

It' Not about post count, the comment I made should've been understood to a certain degree sorry you missed it.

So would you care to explain to the OP whether there would be any issue with what he's trying to do? You might bring up a valid point no one thought about. Are you face palming just because he's trying to do something different or because you foresee issues (Different spring rates effect on corners, different response over bumps from the mix of springs...)?

I thought this response was perplexing as well. Not everyone on this site is an expert, hence the forum. The less knowledgeable members ask questions of the experts to cut down on mistakes and to find the right solutions the first time around. :driving:

Good point...

To help you out, I have a Nismo and installed the Swift springs. You will need to install all 4. The drop will be about 1.25 " all the way around and you will see a slightly raked stance once everything is settled (raked means leaning forward). The swifts are one of only two sets of springs that are actually stiffer than the OEM nismo springs. They also maintain the balance of the supension (stiffer in rear). I would go ahead and install all four and see what you think! If you do not like them, you can always sell them to another forum member.

If you do decide to install them, you should be aware that you will need a rear camber kit (around $200). Check my post in the orgiginal Swift thread for the spec sheet, but after the install your rear camber will be around -3.

The Swifts are a great choice and provide improved performance along with a nice drop and aggressive look.

Thanks JJ, this is what I needed, Swift Springs it is! This forum somehow is tied to my wallet! Damn you all until the next purchase!:rofl2:

LOL, this forum makes you spend muuney on mods that's for sho :p but it is all worthy in the end.

JJ great points you raised. V, I know you've seen the car but here is the stacked up effect JJ was talking about.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/...nx1/photo1.jpg

Damned nice looking Niz.

This may sound stupid- but did you check your nismo for spring spacers on the front?

When Nissan ships 370z Nismo models it puts hard rubber spacers in the front springs to keep the front lip/facia from scraping on the ground. This is unique to Nismo's because of the extension vs the sport model. There have been a LOT of dealerships that forgot to remove some or all of the spacers upon delivery. You might want to check this before putting new springs on.

ATTENTION All Nismo 370Z Owners! Check this thread first before driving your Nismo! - Nismo 350Z / Nismo 370Z Enthusiast Community

^these things

Not at all, I checked the car when I got home the second day after I bought the car and sure enough, the spacers had not been removed:( I took it back to the dealer and had them removed, definitely a different ride afterwards.

http://img.ptf.com/screenshots/82/82500_2.gif

Ah! I can't believe that dealerships still don't remove those damn things.

On another note- just put the swift springs on all four corners. I have them and I live in downtown Chicago. We have shitty road surfaces and the biggest speed bumps I've ever seen, but I get around. Plus, what car doesn't look a little bit better lowered? :tup:

:icon18: thx guys. V, glad you are going with those springs all around. You won't be disappointed at all.
Chilblk, you are bold my friend. The speed bumps and roads in Chi-Town are pretty rough; you should convince forum member Cell as well :p The dealership had removed 3 spacers on my car during purchase and simply forgot about the last one. I found that out when the car was on the lift a few months later.

Cars are meant to be driven! A couple scrapes and battle scars are the only way to live! (I also daily drive on custom 20" rims with a 25 series :eek: it wont be long before I get my lips replaced! hahha)

LMAO, good stuff man, those lips must have gone through a LOT.

Just ordered the Swift springs! All I need to do now is order the front and rear camber arms.:driving:

:happydance: The Swift springs will blow your mind dude. I got the full camber set from THM Motorsport. Give a call to Nick he'll take care of you.:tup:

Here is the link:
SPC Camber Kit

Good choice! I just installed mine along with rear SPC camber arms + toe bolts. The slots for the toe bolts were actually really easy to elongate. No big deal with a tungsten cutting dremel attachment ($8).

Now that I've finished, I regret not ponying up for SPC front a-arms... Theres a ton of neg. camber in the front and the springs haven't even settled yet. I'll know for sure if I need the kit after my alignment next week :icon14:

You're making the right choice getting all the parts at one time!

I would not do it as the springs are totally different and it could upset the handling of the car. The Swifts are kinda like a progressive/linear and the Nismo is Linear. Way too harse.

But if the height is the issue you should get a spring mount spacer for the rear to lift it a little if the Swifts are too low in the rear.

Thank you TJ, I will keep this in mind. Where would I purchase this item if needed? I must admit, I am a little nervous about dropping the car; I hope it's not one of those situations that turn out to be a mistake. I do love the stance the Swift Springs gives the 370Z. I read one instance where one of the forum members had something hitting against the body of the car from doing the drop. I believe he was using coil overs and dropped the car at least 3".

I am hoping this is a very simple install and that I will not have any issues.

V.

Don't be nervous about dropping the car, your front lip will thank you for it LOL. V, you'll just have to be more conscious of steep inclines and taking bumps at high speed. Other than that, you'll enjoy the pros against the cons... I know I do. I can count the number of times I scraped the bottom of the front lip and I can always replace it for cheap in a few months/years if I feel like there is a need for it. You won't have the same issue as the guy who dropped his car over 3"; that's a guarantee but you'll probably notice a need for spacers or fatter tires/rims once you drop it. There you have it, your next future mods before you even got your Swift :)

The Swift Springs have arrived! One thing at a time, next up...camber arms...I guess I should wait until I see if I really need them. I am the kind of person that likes things to be precisely at factory specs, not close to them. I guess this answers my question...get the front and rear camber arms.

Need? More like want, my wife thinks I am crazy to tweak out a new car, she also thinks it has me possessed!!:worship:

V.

:icon18::icon18: Mine did think the same as well until she saw the end result and she is very pleased with it. The main thing she has been able to hold me back up to now are black or gunmetal rims; I love the current stock rims so I will wait for to grow out of it before getting newer rims :tup:

If and when you go with the spacers, the H&R DRS will do the job.