Nissan 370Z Forum

Nissan 370Z Forum (http://www.the370z.com/)
-   Brakes & Suspension (http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspension/)
-   -   Noob Rotor Question (http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspension/35568-noob-rotor-question.html)

Paskii 04-28-2011 11:10 PM

Noob Rotor Question
 
Hey guys,

Been trying to determine if it's worth it to replace the stock front rotors with an aftermarket one. Main reason being is the weight reduction and hoping to save some gas if possible.

Has anyone tried replacing the stock rotors and use the stock Nissan Sport Calipers?

Thanks!

cossie1600 04-28-2011 11:15 PM

The gas you save wont be enough to pay off those fancy rotors

ChrisSlicks 04-29-2011 07:00 AM

The aftermarket 1-piece rotors weight exactly the same.

The aftermarket 2-piece rotors are expensive, and many of the rear kits have steel hats and hence weight the same.

Paskii 04-29-2011 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1079739)
The gas you save wont be enough to pay off those fancy rotors

You are probably right but I'm thinking long term like years, at the rate gas goes up I should save something LOL. Maybe if Donald Trump becomes President and does something to lower gas price.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1079897)
The aftermarket 1-piece rotors weight exactly the same.

The aftermarket 2-piece rotors are expensive, and many of the rear kits have steel hats and hence weight the same.

I'm planning to only replace the front rotors for now, CZP seem to have a promising product with a 2 piece front rotor for around $800 or so with aluminum grade hats. Saving 7lbs per rotor making a total of 14lbs, sounds decent. Anyone know how to convert this to static weight? Besides changing the rotors I want to use my stock Sport calipers, not going to track the car just a daily driver vehicle.

cossie1600 04-29-2011 08:29 AM

You are spending $800 to save 14lbs on a 3350lbs car?

Paskii 04-29-2011 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1080008)
You are spending $800 to save 14lbs on a 3350lbs car?

LOL 14lbs but converting it to static weight it could be a lot, don't know the math but I'm hoping that it's 100lbs or so?

cossie1600 04-29-2011 09:00 AM

you will go .05 sec down a quarter mile.....

kenchan 04-29-2011 10:03 AM

oh noez not this again... (not you cossie, this weight savings mumbo) :D ;)

ChrisSlicks 04-29-2011 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paskii (Post 1080051)
LOL 14lbs but converting it to static weight it could be a lot, don't know the math but I'm hoping that it's 100lbs or so?

The bonus only comes in acceleration (and handling if driving on a race track which you say you're not going to do), and will be minimal given that each wheel and tire weights 55lbs.

There is no direct conversion of unsprung weight to static weight. Yes, removing unsprung weight is always beneficial but trying to save a few pounds on a street car doesn't make much sense. I didn't notice any dramatic acceleration performance improvement when I went to 2-piece rotors and AP calipers.

Paskii 04-29-2011 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1080076)
you will go .05 sec down a quarter mile.....

I think I'll be lucky to even get that but I concur spending that much money may not be worth it hence I'm asking about this and see what peoples feed back are.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1080155)
oh noez not this again... (not you cossie, this weight savings mumbo) :D ;)

LOL it's a legitimate question though.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1080413)
The bonus only comes in acceleration (and handling if driving on a race track which you say you're not going to do), and will be minimal given that each wheel and tire weights 55lbs.

There is no direct conversion of unsprung weight to static weight. Yes, removing unsprung weight is always beneficial but trying to save a few pounds on a street car doesn't make much sense. I didn't notice any dramatic acceleration performance improvement when I went to 2-piece rotors and AP calipers.

Thanks Chris for your input, I saw on another thread where you upgraded to the AP set up its nice! I plan to change my rims and tires with a light weight setup as well, probably going with the TE-37SL not sure about tires. Any suggestions?

cossie1600 04-29-2011 03:25 PM

slicks. you will go faster with just a set of slicks than shaving 50lbs from each corner with regular tires

ChrisSlicks 04-29-2011 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paskii (Post 1080646)
Thanks Chris for your input, I saw on another thread where you upgraded to the AP set up its nice! I plan to change my rims and tires with a light weight setup as well, probably going with the TE-37SL not sure about tires. Any suggestions?

For a summer only tire I like the RE-11's the best. If you planning on driving in the winter then you will need dedicated winter tires as well.

spearfish25 04-29-2011 05:29 PM

Minimizing unsprung weight improves your suspension and handling dynamics. Less weight means the unsprung running gear can follow road contours and recover more quickly. But yes, changing rotors to improve gas mileage is just silly. You should wax your windshield while you're at it :).

cossie1600 04-29-2011 06:46 PM

It's like those Prius guys taping their grills, removing insulation to save gas...

Paskii 04-29-2011 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 1080737)
For a summer only tire I like the RE-11's the best. If you planning on driving in the winter then you will need dedicated winter tires as well.

Cool thanks Chris I heard a lot of positive feedback on the RE-11's will probably go for that as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 1080854)
Minimizing unsprung weight improves your suspension and handling dynamics. Less weight means the unsprung running gear can follow road contours and recover more quickly. But yes, changing rotors to improve gas mileage is just silly. You should wax your windshield while you're at it :).

Quote:

Originally Posted by cossie1600 (Post 1080969)
It's like those Prius guys taping their grills, removing insulation to save gas...

HAHA ok I get both of your points and the consensus is that changing the rotors will barely improve acceleration and have no impact on saving gas.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:44 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0 PL2