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ddvette9 04-12-2011 10:26 AM

Any springs that won't eat tires?
 
My best friend who works as a manager at tires plus used to have a Z and swears that any drop I do I have to get a camber kit or else my rear tires will get half the life. Sooo many people on this website have simple drops. I wanna do one. Is there any springs that will give me a drop but won't tear up my tires like my friend says. Just a plug and play spring drop and then I guess I'll get a realignment after

christian370z 04-12-2011 10:39 AM

One piece of advice: don't listen to your friend because he doesn't know what he is talking about. You will not eat your tires after lowering the car and having an alignment done as the camber will be within factory spec and therefore will not have a significant impact on tire life.

Red__Zed 04-12-2011 10:53 AM

The Eibachs and the swift both have a mild enough drop you shouldn't need a camber kit. I think with H and R's you may need to get one, but even with them, it's not like you'll be running hellaflush levels of camber.

kenchan 04-12-2011 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1048973)
One piece of advice: don't listen to your friend because he doesn't know what he is talking about. You will not eat your tires after lowering the car and having an alignment done as the camber will be within factory spec and therefore will not have a significant impact on tire life.

:iagree:

it's not the camber, the toe is wat really eats at the tires.

Red__Zed 04-12-2011 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1049042)
:iagree:

it's not the camber, the toe is wat really eats at the tires.

The way kids run camber these days, you can totally destroy tires with camber too.

http://www.iputinwork.com/wp-content...dohcres_01.jpg

Red__Zed 04-12-2011 11:03 AM

http://www.iputinwork.com/wp-content...dohcres_05.jpg


Bye bye tires.


You won't be seeing more than 2.5* with springs though.

kenchan 04-12-2011 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1049055)
The way kids run camber these days, you can totally destroy tires with camber too.


i dont think you need me to explain this to you, but just in case, they are a different breed of people with different goals for their cars. obviously we're not talking about VIP setups right now.

ddvette9 04-12-2011 11:35 AM

no i just dont want my tires to go from 20k miles of life to 11-12 like my friend says bc the camber will be so bad that my tires will just get eaten up

Red__Zed 04-12-2011 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kenchan (Post 1049100)
i dont think you need me to explain this to you, but just in case, they are a different breed of people with different goals for their cars. obviously we're not talking about VIP setups right now.

I mean, the h&r springs without a camber kit will likely wear the tire pretty bad.

tsolin01 04-12-2011 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ddvette9 (Post 1049126)
no i just dont want my tires to go from 20k miles of life to 11-12 like my friend says bc the camber will be so bad that my tires will just get eaten up

As long as you get the alignment back to within stock specs, you shouldn't be wearing that much more than normal. Get a camber kit to be safe and get it back to stock specs and you'll be fine with any springs.

Cmike2780 04-12-2011 12:36 PM

camber kit isn't all that expensive, why not get them?

kenchan 04-12-2011 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsolin01 (Post 1049188)
As long as you get the alignment back to within stock specs, you shouldn't be wearing that much more than normal. Get a camber kit to be safe and get it back to stock specs and you'll be fine .

:iagree:

CrownR426 04-12-2011 01:47 PM

Your friend is right technically!
If you just install your springs you will have negative camber, thats a drifter's build.
Now we can easily fix that negative camber with either an alignment or rear endlinks(camber kit).

DIGItonium 04-12-2011 02:59 PM

I'm in the same boat! Just had the Swift springs installed with a new set of 275/35 and 305/30 tires, and the techs couldn't get the wheels aligned as much as they wanted and suggested ordering the camber kits. They didn't recommend me driving the car much until I get the camber kits and get the wheels aligned again.

They even suggested that I try to raise the FI TDX exhaust cans, but I'm not sure how.

brado 04-14-2011 06:33 PM

when you lower the car it gives you negative camber right? so does that mean that the insides of ur tires will wear faster?


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