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JGreenwood07 03-28-2011 08:27 AM

Swift springs 15/20mm spacers rubbing
 
Noticed that I have some very slight rubbing on the front inner wheel wells with the swift springs and 15/20mm spacers.

The rubbing seems to occur on the little plastic "nub" that protrudes from the wheel well.

I have not had the car aligned yet as I just got them installed, but do I need to increase the negative camber on the front to tuck in the tires a bit more?

Thanks for any help.

birdmanx1 03-28-2011 09:01 AM

Umm not good, subscribing...

wheee! 03-28-2011 09:04 AM

aaackk! About to install my Swifts tomorrow! and yes, I have 15 and 20mm spacers.....

Christian has no problem with 20mm front spacers apparently...
http://www.the370z.com/brakes-suspen...tml#post996163

JGreenwood07 03-28-2011 09:14 AM

The rubbing has only happened twice. First on the right and today on the left. It must barely be rubbing as I could hardly hear the sound and the damage is very minimal. I have pulled in and out of driveways, etc. and had no issues. I noticed it today when traveling at about 35 mph and hitting a slight dip in the road.

I feel a slight camber adjustment may be all that is needed but wondered if anyone here could supply their settings and/or inspect their own car to see if they have the same rubbing issues. Unless you felt up there with your finger, you would never know there is any contact being made.

I will take pics tonight when I get home.

azn370z 03-28-2011 09:29 AM

You can't adjust the front clamber. Rubbing is normal but I rarely rub mine even though my drop is properly lower and I have bigger spaces.

JGreenwood07 03-28-2011 09:35 AM

Ok, good to hear then. The rubbing is extremely minimal. If it weren't for that little plastic piece sticking out from fender lining, there wouldn't be any at all.

birdmanx1 03-28-2011 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azn370z (Post 1016335)
You can't adjust the front clamber. Rubbing is normal but I rarely rub mine even though my drop is properly lower and I have bigger spaces.

The full alignment kit from SPC includes front camber/caster adjustment arms. Wouldn't that be of any help in this instance since the OP mentioned that he needs a very slight adjustment?

SPC Alignment Kit

azn370z 03-28-2011 10:24 AM

My auto spell checker on my new phone is so much crazier than my iphone haha. I personally don't trust the spc camber kit, I think it is held only by one bolt and nut. It should be held down with 4 bolts. I think ddmotorsport said his would come loose while tracking his car. I guess it would be fine for street use, maybe.

christian370z 03-28-2011 10:28 AM

Yeah, I don't have any rubbing with 20mm spacers and a good amount of negative camber. I have not had a chance to run the car hard yet though so I would have to report back when I get to do that as to whether there is rubbing or not.

waynerzz 03-28-2011 12:36 PM

Was this on the front or the rear?

JGreenwood07 03-28-2011 01:08 PM

Front–will post pics tonight to show the area where contact is being made.

SPOHN 03-28-2011 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JGreenwood07 (Post 1016183)
Noticed that I have some very slight rubbing on the front inner wheel wells with the swift springs and 15/20mm spacers.

The rubbing seems to occur on the little plastic "nub" that protrudes from the wheel well.

I have not had the car aligned yet as I just got them installed, but do I need to increase the negative camber on the front to tuck in the tires a bit more?

Thanks for any help.

You can bend the little nubs up a little without harming anything. The plastic nubs attach to little metal nubs that can be bend up slightly. This help a little for my case. But I have coilovers so I can make many different adjustments to help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by azn370z (Post 1016469)
My auto spell checker on my new phone is so much crazier than my iphone haha. I personally don't trust the spc camber kit, I think it is held only by one bolt and nut. It should be held down with 4 bolts. I think ddmotorsport said his would come loose while tracking his car. I guess it would be fine for street use, maybe.

The SPC kit could be better. I could see it moving some under hard track days. But should hold up well if tightened properly. But I do trust the kit. I've owned two now and it's been good to me from alignment to alignment. And I do push the car hard. No track days yet on this car though.

JGreenwood07 03-28-2011 05:59 PM

4 Attachment(s)
Here are some images of the drop and the area that is rubbing. Images 2 and 4 show the spot:

SPOHN 03-28-2011 06:05 PM

Yea ok. I got ya. I had to remove that part all together. I just grinded the hole hump out. It's like a big U shape. Most here have done this. Plus it allowes easier access to the bolt holding on the front clip.

JGreenwood07 03-28-2011 06:14 PM

At this point the tire is barely even rubbing that piece. On the back of it, you can where it has nicked it. I think I will leave it as-is for now and keep an eye on it for any further rubbing.

Appreciate the help.

SPOHN 03-28-2011 06:28 PM

It's not going to hurt anything to leave it as long as it's not to bad. You don't want it hitting to hard and grab a hold of that lump and causing a pull effect on the plastic fender. But no big deal to remove it.

ZForce 03-28-2011 06:29 PM

Got any pics of the hole hump grinded out.

SPOHN 03-28-2011 06:31 PM

Actually I don't. I need to take some to add to my profile. I'll do that in the next few days.

ZForce 03-28-2011 06:34 PM

Cool, appreciate it!

I had heard from a member here that he had the same rubbbing issue when he installed his KW coilovers (I know it's apples to oranges) but it was the first thing that came to mind when I saw the OP's original post. I believe he grounded his down also.

SPOHN 03-28-2011 06:41 PM

Plus the size tires I run didn't help. 265 in the front.

ZForce 03-28-2011 10:24 PM

Yeh, 265's make for a tight fit. I guess the tire size + drop from springs + size of wheel spacer + wheel alignment and how much positive camber will determine if the tire is going to rub on the inner fender protruding nub.

Be nice is some members with the Swift springs and wheel spacers could post up their alignment specs so we could determind how much negative camber is needed at a minimun to eliminate rubbing and save on tire wear.


What is needed from members is:

Fr tire size:
Sport wheels:
Wheel spacer size:
Camber after alignment:
Rubs? Y or N

wheee! 03-29-2011 02:57 PM

Installed my Swifts today. Took the extra time to cut out the plastic nub while I was there. Too cold to drive it here still so I have no review to offer....

ZForce 03-29-2011 11:42 PM

Was it rubbing or were you being proactive? Alignment?

Could you provide this data so we can get an idea what combination you have?

Fr tire size:
Sport wheels:
Wheel spacer size:
Camber after alignment:
Rubs? Y or N

wheee! 03-30-2011 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1020335)
Was it rubbing or were you being proactive? Alignment?

I was being proactive.... stock alignment

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1020335)
Could you provide this data so we can get an idea what combination you have?

Fr tire size: stock 245
Sport wheels: stock sport
Wheel spacer size: H&R 15mm
Camber after alignment: unknown, no adjustment since factory
Rubs? unknown as I can't drive it here yet.

Also, I have the winter tires and wheels on right now so final fitment will have to wait till spring. Lol. It's already spring I know but we still have over 6 feet of snow on the ground around here...

Winter setup: Enkei EK2 with Dunlop Graspic DS-2 tires in 18" fitment. 225 50r 18 But a lot of good they did me this year as there was too much snow to get out of the driveway....

fuct 03-30-2011 10:35 AM

just remove or bend the tab. have any of yall lowered a vehicle before???? if not this car will spoil you with its already rolled rear fender!

ZForce 03-30-2011 11:16 PM

@wheee!, snow sucks, not Z friendly. et us know once you get your 19" sport wheels back on, curious to see if you have the rubbing issue. We have 25ft of snow in the Sierra's. Glad I am on the valley floor, felt like spring today it hit 81 degrees.

ZForce 03-30-2011 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuct (Post 1020905)
just remove or bend the tab. have any of yall lowered a vehicle before???? if not this car will spoil you with its already rolled rear fender!

Lowered in the past? Yes, but did not expect to be defacing the car with grinding the nub. It's not like these springs slam the car. I think most of us are looking for a wheel alignment and depending on what wheel spacer size to not having to grind the nub. The concern is with the front wheel. Was very surprised to see Nissan rolled the rears, they probably knew we were going to fitting a wider wheel but that is for another topic. In the end I may be grinding.

tsolin01 03-30-2011 11:55 PM

Noticed earlier that I've also slightly rubbed on that same spot and I'm at stock height with 245/40 tires and 9.5 width wheel. I guess we'll see what happens once i get the swifts on.

ZForce 03-31-2011 12:36 AM

Now that is odd, you have stock height (stock springs), Volk GT-S Ti Gunmetal wheels, and stock size tires and you are rubbing? Any wheel spacers?

I would suspect the wheels are a bit different in size than the Sport wheels. If so this may be why you are rubbing. Let us know if the Swifts take care of the slightly rubbing.

I have Eibachs, 19" sport wheels, 20 mm wheel spacer and pushed the car ans suspension to the point of scaping the exhaust but never the nub has been scraped.


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