Finally Lowered, Stance GR+ True Type
 

Well finally after what seemed like months I have lowered my car. If you remember before it looked like a 4 wheel drive truck. I lowered on Stance GR+ coilovers. Mine are a true type style. Which means the rear are a true coilover just like the front. The spring rates are F-13k and R-5k. Which on a true style the rear being at 5k is equivalent to a 11k on the Stance OEM type. So I'm told. These are just some quick pics. I'm wore out after the last two days.

I also installed SPC alignment kit, Hotchkis sways, and some 10mm spacers for the rear. My wheels are +22 offset all the way around. So I added the spacers in the rear. I just have some quick pics for now. Took me a total of 16 hours to install everything by myself. Still have some more adjusting to do. When I took it for a small test drive, it defiantly needs an alignment. The rear seems as it's steering the car. But I'm setting up an appointment ASAP for corner balance and alignment to square it all off.

I'd also like to thank Nick at THMotorsports for hooking me up with all these parts. They really have great prices.

BEFORE

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AFTER

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looking nice! congratz!

Thanks. And thanks for all your help also.:tup:

all good man.

Looks great! i'm still waiting on my springs to get here...Can't wait to see your Z at the meet in March!

I'm ready for it. Got to find the time to get this baby corner balanced and aligned. Plus there's still some tweaks to be made. Going to drop it off at Forged Performance and let then put there touches on it. Feel like I've been runnig crazy these last two weeks. I need a vacation.

looks great. How you liking the feel of the new coils?

Much better gj!

It feels real planted. It is stiff. But I like that. But at the same time it was hard to say of the actual feeling. I feel it needs some adjusting in the springs but I'm going to leave that to the pros. The instruction say not to adjust except to corner balance. Plus it really needs an alignment bad being I changed all that out. I tried my best to set everything back to what I thought was close. But I feel I failed.. Which is to be expected if you ask me.

I have the same type of coilovers but the ksport brand. Very good for track use but very rough for DD and feels like an entirely different car. im going to be getting a DD shortly so i dont have to drive the car all the time. enjoy!

Nice job! :tup:

looks good but needs more low. lol

Yea I could see that being the case, especially with the spring rates I have. Good thing it's not my DD.
I know.:icon17: I'm already thinking of going up a 1/4". I really feel there will have to be some changes when it's corner balanced. It might be a week or two till I get everything arranged and done. It really sucks. Due to headlights and getting this done now, it seems I haven't had a chance to enjoy my car.:icon14: in a month. But when I do, it will be on.:driving:

Hey Spohn,
Thanks for the post and the information.
Just got my Swift Springs and Stillen Sways installed, and I need camber kits.
Thanks for the point to THMotorSports - GREAT price!!

What's the difference between OEM type and true coilovers? Would you recommend these for DD because i was planning on getting these as a friend of mine has it on his 350z and i really liked the feel of it, and the ride quality was really good too even though the dampers were all the way at stiff and the car was as low as it could go.

OEM type refers mostly to the rear on are cars. OEM type coilovers are similar style to the rear. The spring is separate from the damper ( there not attached). The true type is a basic coilover just as the front is. You eliminate the OEM spring completely and install the true type coilover where the original OEM damper was. Hope this makes since. I have pics for the rear setup. But that will have to wait for I'm not at the house.

So far as DD I'm not sure yet. From what I felt it probably would be a little harsher ride considering the spring rates. But I don't mind it at all. That's me though. Makes it feel I'm in a race car all the time. LOL. My damper for now are set on 8 for know til I get a real good feel of everything. But I'll have to wait for the corner balance and alignment before I can give true feedback. Plus I put sways on to. So I'll have to play with those also. Hope this helps.

Here's a pic of the rear setup.

True type, which is really self exploratory when you think about. I just getting familier with all this myself.

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OEM spring removed and not replaced.

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got a question for ya. did you install that toe bolt where the camber kit is at?
i see your exhaust mid pipe is off, had to get that off for the sway bar installation?

No I didn't. I installed it at the spring perch where it connects to the body of the car. Can't really see in the last pic but it would of been the inside bolt. Same I did on my 350. Why you ask?

And yes had to remove the exhaust for the sways.

Here is my camber arms which also has a cmaber bolt from the OEM that is reused. But the bolt won't have to be adjusted any more due to the arms.

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Here is where I dremeled for the toe bolts. Can't really tell from the pic the exact location though. It's closer to the rear than the camber arms or other side of the diff.

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Here is rear sway.

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Ah nothin, you drilled it at the correct location. Just making sure that's it

Word!

What made you want to go with the true type coiloverrs vs OEM type?

Nothing solid really. Just worked out that way so I went with it. I'm being told they are better for performance. Plus there's more adjustability with these.

^^^ah, true statement and is y i went with mine, they create a much more formidable track car (get a 1.5way with nice tires and watch your times plumitt).

a friend of mine on the forum told me that when he did this to his 350z, he also recieved a little bar to put in place of the plate...i'd like to have one fabricated but idk what to have it fabricated out of :/ OP do you know what kind of metal it is made of i was thinking aluminum it looks like it but idk.

So are you saying your K sports are a true type? And what do you mean watch your times plumett? These things wouldn't plumett.
Not sure what your saying about a bar and a plate. I did read something about a bar if you where to lower it so much. Yes there aluminum collars and upper mounts.

haha...sry, i ment you will improve on your times (body roll, stability...). yes mine are true type. i have pics on my profile if you want to check them out.:tup:

The guy said that he got the bar with the coilovers. he took out the plate the spring sits on (guess thats supposed to be the lwr control arm) and put the bar in place of it...did that make sence? sorry for the confusion.

At first I didn't like the look of the wheels. But the drop makes it look 10X better.

Ok. Yea I hope to have a LSD in the next couple months. This is a must mod for me.

I know what your saying take out the spring perch and install a bar. That would be nice also. Especially if the bar itself could adjust the toe instead of the bolt.

I didn't like the look of the stance either. It was killing me till now.

There's a lot of rust/oxidation on the diff and axle area... I know its off topic, but I noticed the same thing on my car a few weeks ago and I've been meaning to ask. Do you think that will present an issue a few years down the road or is this normal?? It's surprising how my 93 Z32 has no oxidation on those parts and these new cars do.

Edit: seems we are not the only ones and that it's not that serious. http://forums.themustangsource.com/f...y-axle-479797/

I would assume it's normal and don't really think it would cause issues. My 350 also had this. Not sure why this is. And my car hasn't seen one rain day either. So I don't know how to explain this. Someone probably can.

No rust proofing as a cost-cutting move...

That makes since. Can't complain though considering the amount of car you get for the price.

I got my car back yesterday from being corner balanced and aligned. Feels great. Real firm and planted. Now it's time to play with the damping. I do have some rubbing issues in the front under hard cornering and bad dips in the road. So I haven't had a chance to push it hard yet. Plus I have to see how the rear sways are going to play out with this setup. I have it set on medium at the moment. So I will have to raise it up some in the front. No big deal there. Here's a pic of the rubbing on the tire. Mostly just hitting the plastic clips that hold the plastic fender in. You can see where the smudge marks are on the tire.

Props to Ryan, Sharif, and everyone that had a part in this at Forged Perfromance for getting all this squared away for me. Plus some.


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good to hear its coming together. you are going to feel alot of difference once you start playing with the dampening. on my 36 way i use 1-5 in the front and 10-15 in the rear when at the track. when you play with your dampening, you should try playing with your tire pressure too. its intersting to see the difference between the changes you make and I would wright down what you do just so you know YOUR ideal setup when at the track... enjoy! :tup:

I'll do that. Thanks for the advice. I just want to make sure there's no push threw the corners. I hate that feeling.