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christian370z 01-18-2011 12:05 AM

Travis, you are a really good driver so I wouldn't be surprised if you do just as well with ABS if not better after some acclimation.

When I finally get my act together in the brakes department, I would go with nothing else over AP Racing. I was reminded about my brakes after seeing plumes of smoke coming off my base brakes after reaching the bottom of Mulholland chasing an M3 and a GTR haha. Not a whole lot of fade though!

travisjb 01-18-2011 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 899486)
Travis, you are a really good driver so I wouldn't be surprised if you do just as well with ABS if not better after some acclimation.

When I finally get my act together in the brakes department, I would go with nothing else over AP Racing. I was reminded about my brakes after seeing plumes of smoke coming off my base brakes after reaching the bottom of Mulholland chasing an M3 and a GTR haha. Not a whole lot of fade though!

TY kindly sir! I think I lost nearly a second in bravery on my first track day without ABS! Not sure there's enough improvement to make up for that! But then at another track with fewer concrete walls, my times magically improved! go figure!

I wish the factory would provide even more options on brakes... doesn't seem like something that would cost them much... it's not like an engine or transmission where the choice they make there has huge implications for supply chain... brakes is something where they could offer three levels of performance... wonder what % of us would take AP Racing brakes from the factory if it were an option? just curious

Josh@STILLEN 01-18-2011 12:50 AM

You have to remember that pennies make differences on assembly lines, and the percentage of "true" enthusiasts 0.01% of your level will push the car too..

You have 90% of people driving your exact car will complain about brake squeaks.. interior rattles.. road noise.. intake noise.. and everything under the sun you LOOK FOR in the same car..

And both Brembo and Akebono could produce (and do) much better systems.. but when you bring the bean counters into the equation.. everything gets compromised..

Which is also why you only see AP traditionally on supercars, where those compromises turn into selling points.

I think we're up to 9 out of 10 cars on the UK Top Gear test track are running AP Racing.. but that list can change here and there. But you're dealing with the Zonda's and Gumperts and Bugatti's of the world. Cost goes out the equation..

wolf370z 01-18-2011 10:17 AM

I'm assuming that the base 18" 370z wheels will not clear this brake kit?

weiboy718 01-18-2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wolf370z (Post 899793)
I'm assuming that the base 18" 370z wheels will not clear this brake kit?

Spacers will be your best friend if it doesn't clear. These brakes clear my g37 sport brakes with lot's of clearance

djpathfinder 01-21-2011 09:34 PM

Josh, how about that AP Racing group buy mentioned last week? ;)

Josh@STILLEN 01-21-2011 09:48 PM

We've talked about it.. as with anything it's about the numbers.. if we can get 5 guys together.. a great price.. 10.. do a lot better..

We're definitely down to do it.. perhaps we should see how many are serious and start staging some interest, and then we can create an official thread?

SPOHN 01-21-2011 10:06 PM

I'm very interested. I will own this kit reguardless. But it will be April at the latest for me. That's when my funds come in. Spending to much on other stuff at the moment. Good thing Stillen seems to have the best deals on AP anyways. Going to want a six pot 2pc kit with grey calipers.

crash1369 01-21-2011 10:15 PM

I could be persuaded into a group buy :D... I don't even know what we're talking about but it doesn't matter :rofl2:
I know I will want to upgrade my brakes this summer, assuming I can find an organization that will even let me race :facepalm: But anyway, depending on the time frame I am probably in.
Of course I'll need to know a price, and what I'm buying :cool:

:happydance:

weiboy718 01-21-2011 10:29 PM

i just asked the guys at myg37 if they're interested or not.

djpathfinder 01-21-2011 10:30 PM

I'm interested in red front and rear, slotted. If the price is right, I might get a front set for my FX45 too. Josh, my interest should count as 1 definite, possibly 2, right? :tup:

Josh@STILLEN 01-21-2011 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SPOHN (Post 906564)
I'm very interested. I will own this kit reguardless. But it will be April at the latest for me. That's when my funds come in. Spending to much on other stuff at the moment. Good thing Stillen seems to have the best deals on AP anyways. Going to want a six pot 2pc kit with grey calipers.

Competition Gray.. like the racer's use.. I'm a fan too.

Just to clarify.. we at STILLEN engineer the brake systems using AP Racing components.. we're an engineering partner with them, and the exclusive US distributor for road brakes.. it's not an off the shelf product from AP Racing, it's engineered in the US, we build the brackets, rotor hats, do the testing, bias, caliper selection, etc.

Excited to see this work out, get members a good deal with volume, and honestly see the feedback.. a fantastic brake system is as addictive as giant horsepower increases.. and builds so much confidence in the car..

Mike 01-22-2011 06:21 AM

Josh,
Is the smaller front brake kit up to serious track use? The bigger one won't clear my 18s. I love my brembo upgrade, but its a pain to swap pads with the monoblock calipers.

flyingaussie 01-22-2011 10:07 AM

Did I hear group buy??? :P AP5700R/AP3750R to stop my Z! Nice!
BTW ... $4,040 on the Stillen site for both kits. What sort of deal would be do-able do you think? pm's ok for sure. A few questions for the thread though ... apologies if some are answered already.
a) how well do they work with the ABS system? Any issues?
b) will they fit without spacers on the stock 19" sport wheels (suspension is stock, except some sway bar upgrades coming)?
c) any feedback on the front/rear balance on a stock system? Don't want to be lengthening my stopping distance over the stock brakes ...
d) are any other upgrades required to the rest of the braking system to run these?

Thanks!

AP - Chris_B 01-22-2011 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 906823)
Josh,
Is the smaller front brake kit up to serious track use? The bigger one won't clear my 18s. I love my brembo upgrade, but its a pain to swap pads with the monoblock calipers.

Which 18's do you have? Have you physically checked the templates? I ask because most 18's fit the 6-piston kit with decent clearance.

The 4-piston, 13" kit is pretty tough, but we could assemble one for you with rotors that are more durable for serious track use (different iron technology). The cost would be slightly higher. Talk to your reseller/installer for details and tell them they need to call Stillen for pricing. This would be a special kit, but an easy one to do as all parts are on the shelf. We can also upgrade the kit to Mintex F3R race pads, one of the best track pads currently available.


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