Relentless Autosports Coilover package...

Kirkster

I ordered a set of BC ER coilovers from Scott in mid november and they are on the UPS truck "OUT FOR DELIVERY"...

After a lot of consideration I decided to go with Scott's coilover package. Which consists of the BC ER Coilovers, re-valve of the shock, and 10K/12K swift springs...

I will post up some pics when they finally arrive today... I may get the install done this weekend if the weather does not turn into utter crap...

K

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JollyGoodChap

Isn't Relentless somehow tied together with VRT? Which scammed a bunch of people in the Z community?

Scott @ RA

^^ This is a prime example of the rumor spreading problem This subject has been beaten to death time and time again...
Please, if you do not know the facts first hand, please do not spread the BS rumors you read somewhere and become part of the problem. Thanks.

Thanks. I have had WAY more than my fair share of unwarranted blame from that company, that all was ironically and strategically put out there in the rumor mill by other competing shops.... and Yes, we have fixed several botched cars, from VRT back in the day as well as other more (supposedly) reputable shops currently. My short stint as a subcontractor at VRT ended with me leaving due to me finding out about shady practices there... almost a year later (in 2007) and while vrt was still around scamming people, I opened Relentless Autosports. Relentless Autosports had, and still never had anothing to do with vrt.

JollyGoodChap

chillax man, it was a question. It would've been different if my sentence had no question marks, do you agree? Sorry for asking a question on a forum...

Scott @ RA

Oh I understand. A question on a forum is one thing..... but an accusatory question that (once spread around more) can be damaging to someones reputation without warrant, is a whole other thing.
I mean, I hear rumors and horror stories about shops and people all the time, doesn't make it my place to gossip and spread it around to others. I feel it is not my business unless it involves me directly, first hand.
(second hand rumors = gossip)

Now, I'm sorry for being a little sensitive to rumors about me and my company. I take great pride in my company and the great work we do. It just gets old trying to put to rest lame, old, damaging rumors over and over again. I am sure if you were in my position and have gone through as much unwarranted scrutiny with my company the way we have, you would probably understand where I am coming from a little better. Again, sorry for my reaction. Hope you can understand though.

Kirkster

I poked around a bit and only saw that Scott at Relentless had fixed some of the VRT problems...

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Scott @ RA

Glad you got the coilovers, Kirkster. Sorry for the delay (damn SEMA LOL) Hope to see pics and a follow up review when weather permits...

Raven

what are the regular spring rates of the ER's?

ChrisSlicks

That is the regular spring rate of the ER, 12K front, 10K rear.

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Xan

Why are the shocks re-valved if it comes with the spring rates that the shocks were designed for?

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ChrisSlicks

In this particular case I have no idea, Scott will have to answer that one. It's not an uncommon practice, even at stock spring rates people often find they don't have enough adjustment at one end of the range for certain types of driving.

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Scott @ RA

Thanks, and you are 100% correct, Chris. Great explanation.
We don't believe so much in a "one size fits all" coilover package, or a complete suspension package and set up for that matter.

Depending on each individuals needs, wants, feel, etc. We like to set the valving, or split valving in this case (with the ER's) for what would be in the optimal range of valving for both high speed and low speed valving on both the compression as well as the rebound side.

It all comes down to personal preference, supporting mods, wheels and tires used, what percentage of street/ track driving they do, how harsh or plush they want the ride, the intended use of the car, etc.

For example. In this particular case with Kirksters car... We took into consideration that his car is a roadster, that he didn't want to lower his car very much at all under factory height, that the car is mainly a street driven car that will see its fair share of track use, also that the car will see more autocross than longer tracks, etc......

Scott @ RA

Umm correction... The standard spring rates for the "off the shelf" BC Racing ER series coilovers is 10K front and 8K rear.

ChrisSlicks

According to BC NA last year the default spring rates for the "BR" is 10K/8K and the ER was 12K/10K. Did they change there default setup for 2010? Not that it really matters, the ER's are all custom orders anyway.

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Scott @ RA

Sorry Chris, and not that it matters that much or is a big deal, but as some may not know... I talk to Pete (the owner, operator, and manager of BC Racing NA) at least couple times a week, not to mention the many daily text messages. We are good friends and work on projects together. I am also the consultant, director, and driver of their Time Attack cars and race cars (we also build the cars engines).

I asked him in a text message today if the 370Z ER series coilovers EVER came with the 12K front and the 10K rear spring rates as the default (off the shelf).
He replied.......
"No, we did sell many 12/10's ER's (ever since you suggested it), but that is not how they came and has never been the default spring rates. The 350Z, G35, 370Z, G37 have always had the 10K 8K spring rates as the default for the BR's as well as the ER's"