Excessive Brake Dust

AndreZ Cadena · 03-22-2009, 11:40 PM

^^^ I just logged 1183 tonight after my usual trip to Carlsbad from San diego to rack up miles..... I bout the car 9 days ago. i already too it to 7k though, 1200 miles is nissan being little kittys.

kailua · 03-23-2009, 05:18 AM

Have 09 Touring, Sport. These brakes have very little dust.

My 09 STI, and 05 350z had horrible brake dust, both had Brembos though.

Zpil0t6 · 03-24-2009, 10:42 AM

I think they are brembo's made for Nissan.....sorta like sony make most of electronics..

However thats not important. Its the pads. they are high friction pads.....replace them with ceramics....as i've already said.

And you dust issue will disappear.

Perhaps someone should bring a Nismo 350 and the present 370z sport brake setups together....and i think you'll see a remarkable resemblance. Maybe not exact..but thats how they do it...you think Nissan made these brakes....they are outsourced , and since Brembo is the biggest brake whore around.....i'd bet theve even been restamped nissan.....but are in fact brembos and upon didassembly you'll find a bremo stamp.

best stopping brakes made by Nissan....lol

Greg · 03-24-2009, 10:45 AM

OEM pads always dust more than aftermarket pads.

Pushing_Tin · 03-24-2009, 11:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zpil0t6

I think they are brembo's made for Nissan.....sorta like sony make most of electronics..

However thats not important. Its the pads. they are high friction pads.....replace them with ceramics....as i've already said.

And you dust issue will disappear.

Perhaps someone should bring a Nismo 350 and the present 370z sport brake setups together....and i think you'll see a remarkable resemblance. Maybe not exact..but thats how they do it...you think Nissan made these brakes....they are outsourced , and since Brembo is the biggest brake whore around.....i'd bet theve even been restamped nissan.....but are in fact brembos and upon didassembly you'll find a bremo stamp.

best stopping brakes made by Nissan....lol

Review: 2009 Nissan 370Z

The oversized aluminum-caliper multi-piston brakes (from Akebono, not Brembo) feel like they can stop world hunger.

benfiji · 03-24-2009, 12:25 PM

I have 4K miles and no problems so far. I could barely drive a week in my 03 350Z and the front wheel would be covered in brake dust.

LenZToy · 03-24-2009, 12:41 PM

Same here, only a few hundred miles. When I changed the brakes on my 03 350Z the first time, I switched to ceramics and waxed the wheels while I had them off---made a world of difference.

Zpil0t6 · 03-25-2009, 05:09 AM

Yeah , they are good damn brakes....i assumed they were brmbo's by the almost identical distances from the 08 nismo to te 09 370z.....

They do the trick... but don't you forget....the ies also make a world of difference...
I put MPS on the Vette and ....whoa new car. I like the Bridgstones....but i fear non enthusiast willl not like the 10k mile maybe life expectancy.....if you really drive.

ceramics is the answer here.....and while you at it drop in some high boil point fluid..and have it bled... Since the car overheats .....anywhere i could save fluids from overheating i would..

kevr6 · 03-27-2009, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zpil0t6

Yeah , they are good damn brakes....i assumed they were brmbo's by the almost identical distances from the 08 nismo to te 09 370z.....

They do the trick... but don't you forget....the ies also make a world of difference...
I put MPS on the Vette and ....whoa new car. I like the Bridgstones....but i fear non enthusiast willl not like the 10k mile maybe life expectancy.....if you really drive.

ceramics is the answer here.....and while you at it drop in some high boil point fluid..and have it bled... Since the car overheats .....anywhere i could save fluids from overheating i would..

I had the Bridgestone tires on my '08 Audi TT and wore them out in 15,000 miles! And in regards to the brake dust, it's nothing compared to the German vehicles. I've been happily surprised with my short 1300 miles I've established with my Z. 2 cents anyway!

Zpil0t6 · 03-28-2009, 09:10 AM

Yeah i've noticed that about some factory German cars......i was looking at a slick 55 Benz intraffic thinking those black rims look good...then it passed me and the rears were silver and clean.....lol i then noticed this on 2 other cars.

obviously the pad material is to blame.

On the Bridestones....I was using it under extreme circumstances with a HP enriched car. Actually given their period n the car...( traded them over for BFG new style Drag radials) they didn't seem to wear that much..... and they had well over 3800lbs and over 500 hp to deal with.

I can't rave enough about these" nissan" brakes. My first mod on every car is brake upgrade...always a smart move. Safty first.

i beleive this issue is solved....do put in the best brake fluid while your at it. trust me.

My .2 cents

Chan Chee Hoe · 03-28-2009, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kevr6

I had the Bridgestone tires on my '08 Audi TT and wore them out in 15,000 miles! And in regards to the brake dust, it's nothing compared to the German vehicles. I've been happily surprised with my short 1300 miles I've established with my Z. 2 cents anyway!

Agreed,i have driven an Rover 75,the brakes are the same as BMW,the brake dust is very dark in colour,while the Nissan ones is lighter grey in colour.

alan93rsa · 03-28-2009, 12:36 PM

The European manufacturers tend to go with a softer pad which yields more dust. Porsche and BMW feel that it would be wrong to fit a sports car with pads designed around reducing dust on the wheels. The perception of 'most' of the buyers in the U.S. market is that pad dust is bad.

Chan Chee Hoe · 03-28-2009, 10:13 PM

So far i noticed only 1 Japanese make that have the brake dust problem is Lexus.

ChrisSlicks · 03-28-2009, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chan Chee Hoe

So far i noticed only 1 Japanese make that have the brake dust problem is Lexus.

Early Infiniti's had a problem because they were running a very soft pad, they fixed it quickly however.

Zpil0t6 · 03-29-2009, 02:28 PM

even with the dust.......it wipes right off if you caught it early on....if its black you might need some soap and water.... (meaning a couple of days a- a weeks worth of buildup)

Just get into the habit of wiping them down after a days drive.....thats what i initially did.
this is best done dry .

but with the advancements in pad material you don't have to have excessive dust. or give up that excellent braking . My other Z has 6 pot brembo's up front...and it was horribly black after a day of driving.....my cheif mechanic says all Zo6 do this...so i switched to a comprable ceramic pad..Nothing quite like a clean car. Now minimal dust. So i did th same on the 370
hell all my cars have ceramic pads.

Perhaps the germans wash there cars more often. But safety is first.

03-24-2009, 10:45 AM	#19 (permalink)
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alan93rsa Enthusiast Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 412 Drives: 16 Cayman GT4 Red Rep Power: 220	The European manufacturers tend to go with a softer pad which yields more dust. Porsche and BMW feel that it would be wrong to fit a sports car with pads designed around reducing dust on the wheels. The perception of 'most' of the buyers in the U.S. market is that pad dust is bad. __________________ 16 Cayman GT4, Carmine Red, Buckets, PCCB etc.

03-29-2009, 02:28 PM	#30 (permalink)
Zpil0t6 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 52 Drives: 07 Zo6,06 GTO,05Busa Rep Power: 16	even with the dust.......it wipes right off if you caught it early on....if its black you might need some soap and water.... (meaning a couple of days a- a weeks worth of buildup) Just get into the habit of wiping them down after a days drive.....thats what i initially did. this is best done dry . but with the advancements in pad material you don't have to have excessive dust. or give up that excellent braking . My other Z has 6 pot brembo's up front...and it was horribly black after a day of driving.....my cheif mechanic says all Zo6 do this...so i switched to a comprable ceramic pad..Nothing quite like a clean car. Now minimal dust. So i did th same on the 370 hell all my cars have ceramic pads. Perhaps the germans wash there cars more often. But safety is first. Last edited by Zpil0t6; 03-29-2009 at 02:37 PM.

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03-22-2009, 11:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
AndreZ Cadena Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 73 Drives: 09Nissan370blkMtSp/p Rep Power: 0	^^^ I just logged 1183 tonight after my usual trip to Carlsbad from San diego to rack up miles..... I bout the car 9 days ago. i already too it to 7k though, 1200 miles is nissan being little kittys.

03-23-2009, 05:18 AM	#17 (permalink)
kailua Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Earth Posts: 82 Drives: 09 STI Rep Power: 16	Have 09 Touring, Sport. These brakes have very little dust. My 09 STI, and 05 350z had horrible brake dust, both had Brembos though.

03-24-2009, 10:42 AM	#18 (permalink)
Zpil0t6 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 52 Drives: 07 Zo6,06 GTO,05Busa Rep Power: 16	I think they are brembo's made for Nissan.....sorta like sony make most of electronics.. However thats not important. Its the pads. they are high friction pads.....replace them with ceramics....as i've already said. And you dust issue will disappear. Perhaps someone should bring a Nismo 350 and the present 370z sport brake setups together....and i think you'll see a remarkable resemblance. Maybe not exact..but thats how they do it...you think Nissan made these brakes....they are outsourced , and since Brembo is the biggest brake whore around.....i'd bet theve even been restamped nissan.....but are in fact brembos and upon didassembly you'll find a bremo stamp. best stopping brakes made by Nissan....lol

03-24-2009, 12:25 PM	#21 (permalink)
benfiji Base Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 23 Drives: 370Z Rep Power: 16	I have 4K miles and no problems so far. I could barely drive a week in my 03 350Z and the front wheel would be covered in brake dust.

03-24-2009, 12:41 PM	#22 (permalink)
LenZToy Base Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Mechanicsville, Va. Posts: 143 Drives: 2013 370Z Black 6SP Rep Power: 268	Same here, only a few hundred miles. When I changed the brakes on my 03 350Z the first time, I switched to ceramics and waxed the wheels while I had them off---made a world of difference.

03-25-2009, 05:09 AM	#23 (permalink)
Zpil0t6 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 52 Drives: 07 Zo6,06 GTO,05Busa Rep Power: 16	Yeah , they are good damn brakes....i assumed they were brmbo's by the almost identical distances from the 08 nismo to te 09 370z..... They do the trick... but don't you forget....the ies also make a world of difference... I put MPS on the Vette and ....whoa new car. I like the Bridgstones....but i fear non enthusiast willl not like the 10k mile maybe life expectancy.....if you really drive. ceramics is the answer here.....and while you at it drop in some high boil point fluid..and have it bled... Since the car overheats .....anywhere i could save fluids from overheating i would..

03-28-2009, 09:10 AM	#25 (permalink)
Zpil0t6 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 52 Drives: 07 Zo6,06 GTO,05Busa Rep Power: 16	Yeah i've noticed that about some factory German cars......i was looking at a slick 55 Benz intraffic thinking those black rims look good...then it passed me and the rears were silver and clean.....lol i then noticed this on 2 other cars. obviously the pad material is to blame. On the Bridestones....I was using it under extreme circumstances with a HP enriched car. Actually given their period n the car...( traded them over for BFG new style Drag radials) they didn't seem to wear that much..... and they had well over 3800lbs and over 500 hp to deal with. I can't rave enough about these" nissan" brakes. My first mod on every car is brake upgrade...always a smart move. Safty first. i beleive this issue is solved....do put in the best brake fluid while your at it. trust me. My .2 cents

03-28-2009, 10:13 PM	#28 (permalink)
Chan Chee Hoe Track Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Singapore Posts: 861 Drives: 370z,Yellow,7sp A Rep Power: 17	So far i noticed only 1 Japanese make that have the brake dust problem is Lexus.