H&R or Swift Springs?

christian370z · 11-29-2010, 05:54 PM

Not yet, they are getting installed next wednesday unfortunately even thought it can't come soon enough. I will be posting my review though, I always get carried away with pictures so you will get plenty of those too!

Cyberium · 11-30-2010, 12:39 AM

I've seen this question and am curious myself... if you get the swift springs will you need a camber kit? I really don't want to deal with camber issues and uneven wear on tires.

christian370z · 11-30-2010, 12:46 AM

A few guys said they did not need camber arms with Swift springs and were able to get camber back within factory specifications. I am counting on that being true since I didn't get any camber arms haha.

Cyberium · 11-30-2010, 12:55 AM

Ok, so once the swift springs are installed you should be able to just get an alignment done to get back or close to factory settings right?.

Also does anyone else have the Fast Intentions exhaust with Swift Springs? Any scraping? This is the true deal breaker for me

esfourteen · 11-30-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

A few guys said they did not need camber arms with Swift springs and were able to get camber back within factory specifications. I am counting on that being true since I didn't get any camber arms haha.

I actually didn't even think to try, just assumed I couldn't get it back to stock and picked up some SPC arms, im gonna try without the arms first this saturday.

tjlazer · 11-30-2010, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyberium

Ok, so once the swift springs are installed you should be able to just get an alignment done to get back or close to factory settings right?.

Yes I got mine back to OEM specs, though the fronts are not adjustible at all, rears are and I got mine to -1.9.

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Also does anyone else have the Fast Intentions exhaust with Swift Springs? Any scraping? This is the true deal breaker for me

I have it and I have not scraped once. But then again I am not dropped as much as H&R or Coilovers so that is no surprise.

Cyberium · 12-01-2010, 12:18 AM

Thanks TJ, guess I'm buying some swift springs this winter in anticipation for spring time

Viera · 12-15-2010, 09:22 AM

I have the Fast Intentions exhaust and have been contemplating on the H&R's for a while now. I prefer the stance of the H&R springs compared to everything else, but I just don't know if I will be scraping EVERYTIME I drive. Does anyone have pics of their FI exhaust + H&R/Swift springs in the rear? I'm pretty much dead set on the H&R's, but I just don't want to regret getting those after putting them on and scraping every time I hit a bump on the road or something. Thanks.

Jonathan

Boost_lee · 12-15-2010, 05:43 PM

I have the fi exhaust with swift springs. I've on scraped the bottom of the canister once, but it was on a huge speedbump. I haven't had any other issue since. If you know how to drive a lowered car, you'll be fine

christian370z · 12-15-2010, 06:05 PM

On the road, I have not noticed any additional scraping on the little front plastic flaps in front of the front wheels but I definitely scrape those flaps on stuff I did not previously. I could care less though as they are replaceable and they are the only things that scrape.

CFZ · 12-15-2010, 06:17 PM

O so you finally got them installed. how do you like them Chrstian?

christian370z · 12-15-2010, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CFZ

O so you finally got them installed. how do you like them Chrstian?

They are absolutely perfect, I honestly could not have asked for more out of them. Here is my full review of them:

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These springs are supposedly the best performance springs available and yet have been reported to ride more comfortably than the stock springs while being called "junior coil overs." I had a hard time believing this initially, but they were worth every penny.

Quality of the Springs: I was honestly a bit disappointed that the springs came powder coated black rather than the beautiful metallic blue color that is advertised on their website but the coat is even and looks very durable. Compared to the stock springs, these look very beefy and much more substantial which I thought was a plus.

Lowering Observations: The kit is supposed to lower the car 1" in the rear and 1.2" in the front to give the car a nice, slightly more aggressive pose. Once the car was settled off the lift and received an alignment, the ride height was already at the marketed drop so I expect it to go a little lower as the springs settle. The drop is very even front and rear and is the perfect look in my opinion: not too low but not too conservative.

Driving Impressions: this was what interested me the most, I had a hard time understanding how this spring can perform so much better (increased spring rate) but be more comfortable than stock. It depends on your definition of comfortable, but it did improve ride quality in a few areas: large freeway bumps, undulations and overpass rises felt much better as the car just felt more planted and settled during and after the undulations. It also had less of a bounding motion. That said, the ride is firmer and was immediately noticeable as soon as I hit the road. It is not a harsh firmness, but it feels much more positive and controlled which is exactly what I was looking for.

I took it through Malibu canyon roads such as Mulholland on my way back from the shop and the car felt PERFECT. There was no noticeable body roll, and steering response as well as turn in felt much more precise and direct. The car was balanced perfectly between the Stillen sway bar set to the firmest setting in the rear and the spring rates, there was no hint of understeer and I felt like I could finally effectively control the car using throttle. Mid corner bumps did not unsettle the car or give a lurching sensation like the stock springs did and it felt suitably firm at higher speeds which kept the car feeling planted.

All in all, I am very very happy with these springs. Here are a whole bunch of pictures in case anyone is interested, both before and after.

Before:

On the lift:

Comparing the stock springs to the Swifts, check out the difference!

And lowered, all around shots: (sorry the car is a bit dirty)

A big thanks to Seb at SpecialtyZ, very quick high quality work at a super reasonable rate.

And a picture of how they look completely settled:

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CFZ · 12-15-2010, 07:49 PM

That's a really good detailed review. I knew you would like them though. LOL.
Cars looking good. Yeah I think they did a really good job on these springs. Once again Thumbs up to Swift for this. I've driven several lowered Z's and every time I do I am extremely happy with what I have.

I need to go to the track again soon.

Hey by the way you should re-post your review here
SWIFT Springs in Production
or the other Swift review page. Maybe we can get a sticky going or something.

chops · 12-15-2010, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by christian370z

They are absolutely perfect, I honestly could not have asked for more out of them. Here is my full review of them:

And a picture of how they look completely settled:

nice! the difference between the actual springs are crazy. the swift look MUCH beefier.

OT: i was watching your video in your sig...you should really turn off X band on your radar detector, no point in california

christian370z · 12-15-2010, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CFZ

That's a really good detailed review. I knew you would like them though. LOL.
Cars looking good. Yeah I think they did a really good job on these springs. Once again Thumbs up to Swift for this. I've driven several lowered Z's and every time I do I am extremely happy with what I have.

I need to go to the track again soon.

Hey by the way you should re-post your review here
SWIFT Springs in Production
or the other Swift review page. Maybe we can get a sticky going or something.

I will definitely post there after I come back from dinner, I think these springs feel better with speed!

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Originally Posted by chops

nice! the difference between the actual springs are crazy. the swift look MUCH beefier.

OT: i was watching your video in your sig...you should really turn off X band on your radar detector, no point in california

X band is annoying especially because it goes off for most of the false readings, I need to read the instructions and do that then. I was amazed at the difference in build between the stock and Swift springs, really goes to show the OEM compromises.

11-29-2010, 05:54 PM	#61 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 432	Not yet, they are getting installed next wednesday unfortunately even thought it can't come soon enough. I will be posting my review though, I always get carried away with pictures so you will get plenty of those too! __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

11-30-2010, 12:39 AM	#62 (permalink)
Cyberium Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 379 Drives: 370z Touring \| Sport Rep Power: 16	I've seen this question and am curious myself... if you get the swift springs will you need a camber kit? I really don't want to deal with camber issues and uneven wear on tires. __________________ Stillen G3 Intakes \| F. I TDX

11-30-2010, 12:46 AM	#63 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 432	A few guys said they did not need camber arms with Swift springs and were able to get camber back within factory specifications. I am counting on that being true since I didn't get any camber arms haha. __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

11-30-2010, 12:55 AM	#64 (permalink)
Cyberium Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 379 Drives: 370z Touring \| Sport Rep Power: 16	Ok, so once the swift springs are installed you should be able to just get an alignment done to get back or close to factory settings right?. Also does anyone else have the Fast Intentions exhaust with Swift Springs? Any scraping? This is the true deal breaker for me __________________ Stillen G3 Intakes \| F. I TDX

12-01-2010, 12:18 AM	#67 (permalink)
Cyberium Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Vermont Posts: 379 Drives: 370z Touring \| Sport Rep Power: 16	Thanks TJ, guess I'm buying some swift springs this winter in anticipation for spring time __________________ Stillen G3 Intakes \| F. I TDX

12-15-2010, 09:22 AM	#68 (permalink)
Viera Track Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 897 Drives: '09 M.Blue 370Z 6MT Rep Power: 264	I have the Fast Intentions exhaust and have been contemplating on the H&R's for a while now. I prefer the stance of the H&R springs compared to everything else, but I just don't know if I will be scraping EVERYTIME I drive. Does anyone have pics of their FI exhaust + H&R/Swift springs in the rear? I'm pretty much dead set on the H&R's, but I just don't want to regret getting those after putting them on and scraping every time I hit a bump on the road or something. Thanks. Jonathan

12-15-2010, 05:43 PM	#69 (permalink)
Boost_lee A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SATX Posts: 2,813 Drives: 09 370Z TT 6MT Rep Power: 29	I have the fi exhaust with swift springs. I've on scraped the bottom of the canister once, but it was on a huge speedbump. I haven't had any other issue since. If you know how to drive a lowered car, you'll be fine red z likes this.

12-15-2010, 06:05 PM	#70 (permalink)
christian370z A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 3,900 Drives: 2010 370Z/Saab 900se Rep Power: 432	On the road, I have not noticed any additional scraping on the little front plastic flaps in front of the front wheels but I definitely scrape those flaps on stuff I did not previously. I could care less though as they are replaceable and they are the only things that scrape. __________________ -320whp / 259wftlbs- SP Rays -- RE-11s -- SpecialtyZ Tune -- Swift Springs -- Stillen 25R Oil Cooler -- Stillen G3 Intakes -- Berk HFCs -- F.I. 12" CBE -- Stillen Sway Bars -- Es14 Spring -- INGS+1 lip -- CF Spoiler -- GTR Start Button -- VLED Parking Lights -- PWJDM V2 shift knob

12-15-2010, 06:17 PM	#71 (permalink)
CFZ Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: F-Town Posts: 134 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 234	O so you finally got them installed. how do you like them Chrstian?

12-15-2010, 07:49 PM	#73 (permalink)
CFZ Base Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: F-Town Posts: 134 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 234	That's a really good detailed review. I knew you would like them though. LOL. Cars looking good. Yeah I think they did a really good job on these springs. Once again Thumbs up to Swift for this. I've driven several lowered Z's and every time I do I am extremely happy with what I have. I need to go to the track again soon. Hey by the way you should re-post your review here SWIFT Springs in Production or the other Swift review page. Maybe we can get a sticky going or something.

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