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KamiSpeed 05-17-2011 01:30 PM

another stock update: only about 6-7 sets left that aren't presold!!! if you already have a set ignore me :)

tsolin01 05-17-2011 10:36 PM

Checked my ride height today and it seems the springs have settled some more on the passenger side and it more or less matches the driver side. Current height: 26.625" front, 26.875" rear. That works out to 1.245" drop front, 1.115" drop rear.

Alchemy 05-17-2011 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KamiSpeed (Post 1116712)
another stock update: only about 6-7 sets left that aren't presold!!! if you already have a set ignore me :)

Man all I hear is great stuff bout these springs, cant wait to get mine. Lets get this shipment in :)

ZForce 05-18-2011 01:45 AM

speedworks, great feedback. I too after the intial placebo effect wore off and have about 600 miles on the Swift springs with new paws felt it to be little stiffer than OEM, but much softer than Eibachs. Body roll, no chance can Eibachs compare to these, they are awesome.

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Originally Posted by tsolin01 (Post 1117670)
Checked my ride height today and it seems the springs have settled some more on the passenger side and it more or less matches the driver side. Current height: 26.625" front, 26.875" rear. That works out to 1.245" drop front, 1.115" drop rear.

I wish I had those numbers. Maybe I can achieve those numbers after a few hundred more miles and some hard twisties coming up on this weekends run. Or maybe I need a fat passenger to drop the passenger side ride height...haha

CFZ 05-18-2011 01:35 PM

Has anyone gone competitive with these springs on yet?

Red__Zed 05-19-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by CFZ (Post 1118727)
Has anyone gone competitive with these springs on yet?

Jon and I just ran the dragon with the swifts. Have to say that I was very pleased with how planted the Z felt, and how well they held up.

I ran into some alignment issues, as well as issues with the base front tires, but the springs were flawless as far as I could tell. Jon might be able to chime in more since his setup seemed to be working well.


Whenever I get home, I have video of his car on the dragon, so you can see how planted it stays.

ZForce 05-19-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1120841)
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I ran into some alignment issues, as well as issues with the base front tires.....

Please do tell, I am going for my third alignment tomorrow and would like to know what part of your setup is the issue.

Red__Zed 05-19-2011 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1121554)
Please do tell, I am going for my third alignment tomorrow and would like to know what part of your setup is the issue.

I just want more camber up front to match the rear. Couldn't grip enough up front.

ZForce 05-20-2011 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1122186)
I just want more camber up front to match the rear. Couldn't grip enough up front.

That means installing an Upper Control Arm. I also wonder if the 18's contribute to the non grip?

christian370z 05-20-2011 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1120841)
Jon and I just ran the dragon with the swifts. Have to say that I was very pleased with how planted the Z felt, and how well they held up.

I ran into some alignment issues, as well as issues with the base front tires, but the springs were flawless as far as I could tell. Jon might be able to chime in more since his setup seemed to be working well.


Whenever I get home, I have video of his car on the dragon, so you can see how planted it stays.

I love seeing canyon run videos, definitely post them up! I was able to get plenty of camber in the front, the car refuses to oversteer now which is so much nicer especially in tighter low speed corners since turn in is sharper. I think the limitations of the base wheels are the smaller tires as they are just not up to task even with the stock suspension. Add sways and springs and they become an even bigger weak link in my opinion, my sport package Rays are a night and day difference.

CFZ 05-20-2011 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Red__Zed (Post 1120841)
Jon and I just ran the dragon with the swifts. Have to say that I was very pleased with how planted the Z felt, and how well they held up.

I ran into some alignment issues, as well as issues with the base front tires, but the springs were flawless as far as I could tell. Jon might be able to chime in more since his setup seemed to be working well.


Whenever I get home, I have video of his car on the dragon, so you can see how planted it stays.

POST VIDS!!!

I will post up a few actions shots I have at the track and autocross events as well.

ZForce 05-20-2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1122677)
That means installing an Upper Control Arm. I also wonder if the 18's contribute to the non grip?




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Originally Posted by christian370z (Post 1122762)
I love seeing canyon run videos, definitely post them up! I was able to get plenty of camber in the front, the car refuses to oversteer now which is so much nicer especially in tighter low speed corners since turn in is sharper. I think the limitations of the base wheels are the smaller tires as they are just not up to task even with the stock suspension. Add sways and springs and they become an even bigger weak link in my opinion, my sport package Rays are a night and day difference.

:iagree: Read somewhere probably Car & Driver a couple years back that the 18' wheel cannot compare nor keep up with the 19 sport rims. I have been hearing more folks that bought the Base model are now looking for sport rims. Sometimes it does not pay to cut corners.

Red__Zed 05-20-2011 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1122677)
That means installing an Upper Control Arm. I also wonder if the 18's contribute to the non grip?

the 18's don't, but the tires on them certainly do. I have nowhere near enough tire up front to handle these turns.

ZForce 05-20-2011 08:46 PM

I know you have already gone for 2 alignments...but you may want to try my set up to give you more front tire grip. That is to back off the rear camber to a difference of 0.3 more postive from what you are running up front.

If I recall you are runnming:

Driver Front:
Camber: -1.4
Toe: xx
Caster: 5.4*

Pass Front:
Camber:-1.5
Toe: xx
Caster: 5.7*


I would suggest running the Rear camber at -1.1 drivers side and -1.2 passenger side.

Red__Zed 05-20-2011 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ZForce (Post 1124168)
I know you have already gone for 2 alignments...but you may want to try my set up to give you more front tire grip. That is to back off the rear camber to a difference of 0.3 more postive from what you are running up front.

If I recall you are runnming:

Driver Front:
Camber: -1.4
Toe: xx
Caster: 5.4*

Pass Front:
Camber:-1.5
Toe: xx
Caster: 5.7*


I would suggest running the Rear camber at -1.1 drivers side and -1.2 passenger side.


I don't have enough grip up front. Why would I want to reduce front camber?

My plan is to go with a front camber kit, and I think I'm going to try to run around 2.5* of camber up front. I'm also looking to go with a square setup, which should help dial out understeer as well.

Why do you suggest different camber on each side?


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