GTSPEC 6 Point Ladder Brace

jazz · 02-24-2011, 02:44 PM

so, i have a roadster and starting my build and was looking at the 6 or 4 and the rear lower brace...and your saying it will hit everything i go over! ieeee
build list
HKS hipermax 3
SPC camber arms front and rear
Venaci 20" spirits 9.5 and 11" rear
stillen headers and test pipe
HKS cat back
stillen G2 intake

RCZ · 02-24-2011, 04:34 PM

^ get the G3 intake, not the G2. Also I'd get HFC's not Test pipes because the power advantage is really not worth the rasp.

Whatever happened with this brace, I want one

jazz · 02-25-2011, 10:12 AM

ok, ill take a look.
do you need to take off the front bumper every time to clean the filters? i live in a dusty area! grr
so no test pipes, go with the 200 cell cats.

what about the brace...i am in a roadster so the car gets some flex! but dont want it to have no clearence.

m4a1mustang · 02-25-2011, 10:28 AM

Skip the brace, you'll hit everything especially if you're lowered!

And yes, you need to remove the front bumper to access the filters but this is VERY easy. Once you figure out how it works (i.e. after the first time) you can remove the front bumper in under 10 minutes. It's a breeze.

RCZ · 02-25-2011, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazz

ok, ill take a look.
do you need to take off the front bumper every time to clean the filters? i live in a dusty area! grr
so no test pipes, go with the 200 cell cats.

what about the brace...i am in a roadster so the car gets some flex! but dont want it to have no clearence.

I would go with the high flow cats....less stinky, less rasp and I guess it does something for the environment. Might cost you 3-4hp.

I don't know about the clearance...I'm pretty scared about that myself...Don't think I can make it anywhere...

Jeffblue · 02-25-2011, 01:09 PM

They may have redesigned it, but on the model i had if you're dropped at all its going to get destroyed. I ended up taking it off when i had my coilovers installed because it just wasn't going to work.

fuct · 02-25-2011, 02:49 PM

also who says our cars need to be any stiffer??? a lil give is needed!

jazz · 02-26-2011, 12:48 PM

majority votes.....NO

i was thinking if im adding power in a soft top witch has more flex then a coupe i would need it. but, guess not that much if i cant drive it! 3 or 400 in my pocket

NYBladeZ · 02-26-2011, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue

They may have redesigned it, but on the model i had if you're dropped at all its going to get destroyed. I ended up taking it off when i had my coilovers installed because it just wasn't going to work.

wanna give it to me, I don't have coilovers yet

Jeffblue · 02-26-2011, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYBladeZ

wanna give it to me, I don't have coilovers yet

i would have, but i left it at performance motorsport in like november, when i had my coilovers installed. I think GT-SPEC picked it up the next day or so.

cinellipro · 01-09-2014, 06:48 PM

Attempted to install the 6 point brace after work today. The compression rivets are an interesting experience as I really did not know when I've tightened them enough. I used hand tools and they do seem to work.
However, the problem I had was that the other four bolts from the frame do not fit with the brace in place. GT-Spec does not provide replacements bolts that fit the length needed. I contacted GT Spec and they stated they used to provide the correct size bolts. They suggested I go to a hardware store and pick up some longer bolts, which I'll do but it would have been better knowing that prior to taking everything apart.
My concern is that other than the rivet bolts the four contact points are not flush where the brace makes contact the frame tightened by the bolt. Not sure if that is intentional so there will be some flex between the brace and frame in the front and side bolts. If you look at picture of this product at the GT-Spec site it shows two additional bolts but it also shows what look like a pair of bushings that I believe are there to resolve the non-flushness. Four of those should have been included in the package.
I also have the 2 point rear brace which fits flush at the bolt contact points and that's what I would have expected from the 6-point.

Retightened everything and will be purchasing the new longer bolts this weekend. If anyone has the specs on the thread and length, thanks.
Cheers.

cinellipro · 01-11-2014, 12:57 PM

Purchased longer bolts and washers. Everything suddenly fit and the brace was installed within 10 minutes. After a drive and retighening of all bolts I took it for longer drive. The before and after difference is not dramatic, and I was not expecting it from such a well-built car.
Impressions are that the steering wheel feels more solid. Noises from the road bumps are more muted, distant. On higher speed turns it feel solid, more solid than before. That new feel provides more confidence in the turn. A more solid feel at highway speeds. It is noticeable? Yes to me.

moto_italia · 01-25-2014, 06:03 PM

I wonder if it would make more of a difference on the Roadster.

1slow370 · 01-27-2014, 03:32 AM

i wonder if it should be called the placebo brace

Huck · 03-21-2014, 04:52 PM

Cinellipro, did anyone ever verify if the 6 point replaces the 4 point or just adds to it?

Zdayz 2014!!

02-24-2011, 02:44 PM	#46 (permalink)
jazz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: barrie ON Posts: 910 Drives: 11Zcab/12venzaV6awd Rep Power: 15	so, i have a roadster and starting my build and was looking at the 6 or 4 and the rear lower brace...and your saying it will hit everything i go over! ieeee build list HKS hipermax 3 SPC camber arms front and rear Venaci 20" spirits 9.5 and 11" rear stillen headers and test pipe HKS cat back stillen G2 intake __________________ One part rubber, three parts Krazy Glue.

02-25-2011, 10:12 AM	#48 (permalink)
jazz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: barrie ON Posts: 910 Drives: 11Zcab/12venzaV6awd Rep Power: 15	ok, ill take a look. do you need to take off the front bumper every time to clean the filters? i live in a dusty area! grr so no test pipes, go with the 200 cell cats. what about the brace...i am in a roadster so the car gets some flex! but dont want it to have no clearence. __________________ One part rubber, three parts Krazy Glue.

02-25-2011, 10:28 AM	#49 (permalink)
m4a1mustang A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 55,385 Drives: on two wheels Rep Power: 6962	Skip the brace, you'll hit everything especially if you're lowered! And yes, you need to remove the front bumper to access the filters but this is VERY easy. Once you figure out how it works (i.e. after the first time) you can remove the front bumper in under 10 minutes. It's a breeze. __________________ - Steve Zs & Coffee - Saturdays at 10AM in Fairfax, VA and Columbia, MD (Click the banner!) LIKE us on Facebook!

02-26-2011, 12:48 PM	#53 (permalink)
jazz Track Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: barrie ON Posts: 910 Drives: 11Zcab/12venzaV6awd Rep Power: 15	majority votes.....NO i was thinking if im adding power in a soft top witch has more flex then a coupe i would need it. but, guess not that much if i cant drive it! 3 or 400 in my pocket __________________ One part rubber, three parts Krazy Glue.

01-09-2014, 06:48 PM	#56 (permalink)
cinellipro Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: florida Posts: 102 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 13	Attempted to install the 6 point brace after work today. The compression rivets are an interesting experience as I really did not know when I've tightened them enough. I used hand tools and they do seem to work. However, the problem I had was that the other four bolts from the frame do not fit with the brace in place. GT-Spec does not provide replacements bolts that fit the length needed. I contacted GT Spec and they stated they used to provide the correct size bolts. They suggested I go to a hardware store and pick up some longer bolts, which I'll do but it would have been better knowing that prior to taking everything apart. My concern is that other than the rivet bolts the four contact points are not flush where the brace makes contact the frame tightened by the bolt. Not sure if that is intentional so there will be some flex between the brace and frame in the front and side bolts. If you look at picture of this product at the GT-Spec site it shows two additional bolts but it also shows what look like a pair of bushings that I believe are there to resolve the non-flushness. Four of those should have been included in the package. I also have the 2 point rear brace which fits flush at the bolt contact points and that's what I would have expected from the 6-point. Retightened everything and will be purchasing the new longer bolts this weekend. If anyone has the specs on the thread and length, thanks. Cheers. nomodsjk likes this. Last edited by cinellipro; 01-09-2014 at 08:09 PM.

02-24-2011, 04:34 PM	#47 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1118	^ get the G3 intake, not the G2. Also I'd get HFC's not Test pipes because the power advantage is really not worth the rasp. Whatever happened with this brace, I want one

02-25-2011, 01:09 PM	#51 (permalink)
Jeffblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: NY Age: 36 Posts: 9,192 Drives: Z32TT & 335xi Coupe Rep Power: 37	They may have redesigned it, but on the model i had if you're dropped at all its going to get destroyed. I ended up taking it off when i had my coilovers installed because it just wasn't going to work.

02-25-2011, 02:49 PM	#52 (permalink)
fuct A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2009 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 3,692 Drives: 97' Ranger :) Rep Power: 24	also who says our cars need to be any stiffer??? a lil give is needed!

01-11-2014, 12:57 PM	#57 (permalink)
cinellipro Base Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: florida Posts: 102 Drives: 2009 370Z Rep Power: 13	Purchased longer bolts and washers. Everything suddenly fit and the brace was installed within 10 minutes. After a drive and retighening of all bolts I took it for longer drive. The before and after difference is not dramatic, and I was not expecting it from such a well-built car. Impressions are that the steering wheel feels more solid. Noises from the road bumps are more muted, distant. On higher speed turns it feel solid, more solid than before. That new feel provides more confidence in the turn. A more solid feel at highway speeds. It is noticeable? Yes to me.

01-25-2014, 06:03 PM	#58 (permalink)
moto_italia Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Tennessee Posts: 131 Drives: 40th Anniversary Rep Power: 14	I wonder if it would make more of a difference on the Roadster. __________________ Kevin Borla CBE + Z1 Post-MAF Tubes + AFE Dropins + Llumar CTX35

01-27-2014, 03:32 AM	#59 (permalink)
1slow370 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: In the D Posts: 3,732 Drives: v8 74 260z ;) Rep Power: 7251	i wonder if it should be called the placebo brace __________________ ANSWER PRICE LIST Answers - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - $0.75 Answers (requiring thought) - - - - $1.25 Answers (correct) - - - - - - - - - - $12.50

03-21-2014, 04:52 PM	#60 (permalink)
Huck A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Cocoa, Florida Age: 41 Posts: 5,075 Drives: Pantydropper machine Rep Power: 33	Cinellipro, did anyone ever verify if the 6 point replaces the 4 point or just adds to it? Zdayz 2014!! __________________ VLEDS \| Evo-R \| Moddiction \| CF Hood Struts \| F.I. CF CBE & LTH \| Stillen CAI \| NST Pulleys \| UpRev \| Z1 \| M7 \| Status \| Forgestar \| PSS \| Whiteline \| SPL \| SPC \| Kenwood \| Zenclosure \| Kicker \| Alpine Type R

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