Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 735012)

If you want to experiment with chassis stiffening feel, just unbolt your strut bar and drive around town. You WILL feel a difference!

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 734981)

I'm not attacking you Jeff. There's just no way the car's turn-in at 30mph is any more crisp with or without that additional brace. I'm far from a track expert and I doubt I'd notice the difference of that support even driving as quick as I could on a track. If anyone would notice an improvement, I'd put money on the roadster owners. Convertibles in general are notorious for being less rigid, and you can feel chassis flex when you drive over uneven road surfaces (the car shudders, dash creaks, and you can feel twisting as the front tires go over a bump before the rear).

My post was more a general 'we give to much credence to mods' shout out. I have the mods listed in my signature while two good friends of mine have more stock 370Zs. When we autoX, our times are much more dependent on how we navigated the course as a driver than what small at best advantage I have over them with HFCs, CBE, spacers, and sways.

That being said...How much was the brace? I likey :)

Originally Posted by RCZ (Post 735009)

I agree and disagree with the points being discussed. From experience I can tell you that chassis stiffening mods can be actually quite dramatic even at low speed slalom style turns. For example, swaybars are something you can immediately notice after installing them even if you aren't doing time attack laps in a suburban neighborhood. Hell, I tripod going up driveways and gas stations. On the other hand, things like strutbars you can't really notice much, if at all, on the street because that requires a bit more stress to make a difference. I wouldn't doubt it though, if someone who tracks their car told me they feel a difference when taking offramps with their new strut bars.

Now... I've heard plenty of of people with GT spec ladder braces (on different cars) say that they do feel the car is more planted, predictable and consistent after than before. I've never installed a set myself so I can't comment on those specifically, but I wouldn't put it past someone with a good feel of their car to notice a difference with a chassis stiffening mod.

This is a mod I would definitely do, but I can't because of clearance. I like it though.

Jeff, if you can ask them if they wanna send one over to florida for some flogging :)

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 735018)

That's funny because its a lot stiffer than the Z. :icon17:

Originally Posted by Jeffblue (Post 735024)

thats what she said:ugh2:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 735028)

That is what she said.

Originally Posted by fuct (Post 735042)

is making our cars as stiff as possible even a benifit?