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wolf370z 08-23-2010 09:49 PM

Stillen's Brake Cooling Kit
 
Alright come on Stillen you guys said you were developing a new, unprecedented type of brake cooling for the 370z. You mentioned it in a post a few months ago... come on guys spill the beans. Just about the only other mention is on your description of the 370z front fascia and that it'll work with your new brake cooling kit.

Update?

Josh@STILLEN 08-23-2010 09:52 PM

It's being worked on.. the goal was to incorporate a design that would work with the stock 370Z, Nismo and the STILLEN Fascia.. the engineers have been working on the supercharger, but focus should shift back once that's wrapped up.

ChrisSlicks 08-23-2010 10:08 PM

I'm sure the SC project has taken for more time away from your engineers that you had planned on, it's unfortunate but s**t happens. I'm looking forward to it and in the mean time I'm doing whatever I can to divert airflow into the wheel well area. Most tracks are okay but there are brake killer tracks like Monticello that like to set them on fire. The good news I guess is that Monticello is closing to HPDE which is too bad as it is a nice track.

Mike 08-23-2010 10:37 PM

just release for those of us with your fascia and I'm cool with it! ;)

ResIpsa 08-24-2010 06:47 AM

Do your self a favor and save some money. Here is my DIY for brake cooling ducts.


http://www.the370z.com/diy-section-d...ing-ducts.html

spearfish25 08-24-2010 08:26 AM

I like the DIY but would prefer a pre-fab kit if possible. That being said, I'm sure the Stillen kit will require all kinds of cutting anyway. Rather than hooking to the fang vents, it sounds like they're trying to have a scoop that you position differently for each bumper (behind fang hole for the stock fascia, behind lateral vent for Stillen fascia, etc).

The main DIY step that's stopping me is the connection to the fang vents. Perhaps I can just make a scoop that attaches to the radiator support and just lines up nicely with the fang vents. Then the fascia still comes off easily.

Would really like this done before mid-October guys. Road America track day is fast approaching and that track feasts on brakes.

fuct 08-24-2010 10:00 AM

interested to see what they come up with for the nismo....

SE 08-24-2010 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fuct (Post 691404)
interested to see what they come up with for the nismo....

Agreed.

fuct 08-30-2010 11:33 AM

any news available a week later? :)

KaienZ34 10-01-2010 01:42 PM

How about now ??

m4a1mustang 10-01-2010 01:45 PM

Haha, I'm pretty sure they are really busy trying to figure out how to tune their SC kits! :icon18:

pipni 12-09-2010 04:55 PM

Some news about cooling of brakes?

ScGRaceR 12-12-2010 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by fuct View Post
interested to see what they come up with for the nismo....


word

Zeester 02-02-2011 01:42 AM

Any word on this yet ?

Red__Zed 02-03-2011 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m4a1mustang (Post 746473)
Haha, I'm pretty sure they are really busy trying to figure out how to tune their SC kits! :icon18:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeester (Post 922607)
Any word on this yet ?

Still working on the tuning issue I'm sure.

RCZ 02-03-2011 11:13 AM

Last I heard they had a lot of projects on their plate, thats probably why they are taking a while...

ChrisSlicks 03-07-2011 09:58 AM

Time to bump this thread as track season is upon us. Any progress in this area?

spearfish25 03-07-2011 11:38 AM

tick tock

Nikon FM 03-07-2011 01:36 PM

I have access to a very basic lathe and milling machine (not cnc). I bought a big chunk of black Delrin and am going to have at it in the next two weeks.............................just got tired of waiting and really hate the look of the DIY stuff so far.

Stuff to make:
2xInterface pieces to OEM front grill with the two pieces removed....will utilize OEM fastner location at top.

2xflange to penetrate fenderwell liner

2xflange/duct to target back side of rotors without interfering with wheel movement

Not sure how long this will take but will hopefully be able to knock it out within a month..

ChrisSlicks 03-07-2011 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikon FM (Post 973946)
I have access to a very basic lathe and milling machine (not cnc). I bought a big chunk of black Delrin and am going to have at it in the next two weeks.............................just got tired of waiting and really hate the look of the DIY stuff so far.

Stuff to make:
2xInterface pieces to OEM front grill with the two pieces removed....will utilize OEM fastner location at top.

2xflange to penetrate fenderwell liner

2xflange/duct to target back side of rotors without interfering with wheel movement

Not sure how long this will take but will hopefully be able to knock it out within a month..

Keep us posted on your progress. 90% of it I could put together by modifying off the shelf racing parts, but it is the hub flange duct that needs to be very specific to our cars and is the PITA bit.

I was thinking of going with a 3 inch intake, 2-inch reducer (increase air velocity and make it easier to route the duct) and then figuring out a solution for the hub.

spearfish25 03-07-2011 02:13 PM

A couple of us will be pursuing another idea which entails removing the rubber air deflector in front of each wheel and glassing rectangular (NACA-like) pickups to bolt in their place. This will avoid cutting the fender liner and will be easily removable for when you're not at the track.

I'd bet good money that Stillen's stupid kit will require their front fascia and somehow incorporate their fascia side vents.

6spd 03-07-2011 04:36 PM

can we fit an angled backing plate for cooling? ive given the brake duct thing a shot but called it quits due to the lack of space and the lack of ambition in cutting up fender wells and crap. I got the idea from an old lexus i had in my shop a week ago. It had big, angled backing plates behind the rotors that were obviously designed to channel air. just an observation, but it may lead to something.

Nikon FM 03-07-2011 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 973988)
Keep us posted on your progress. 90% of it I could put together by modifying off the shelf racing parts, but it is the hub flange duct that needs to be very specific to our cars and is the PITA bit.

I was thinking of going with a 3 inch intake, 2-inch reducer (increase air velocity and make it easier to route the duct) and then figuring out a solution for the hub.


Where would you initiate the 3" intake? Popping out the pieces outboard of the fangs without additional cutting is what I'm going for to keep the look clean….possibly would minimize the flow performance though?

I was going to reduce the x-section area from the fender liner flange to the end of the duct nearest the rotor to increase the velocity.

This is not going to be a quick turn around based on my current schedule but I'll show pics when I'm closer.

Nikon FM 03-07-2011 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spearfish25 (Post 974009)
A couple of us will be pursuing another idea which entails removing the rubber air deflector in front of each wheel and glassing rectangular (NACA-like) pickups to bolt in their place. This will avoid cutting the fender liner and will be easily removable for when you're not at the track.

I'd bet good money that Stillen's stupid kit will require their front fascia and somehow incorporate their fascia side vents.

Hmmm….. rectangular opening with a curved back section targeting the rotors? Are you putting/fabricating a mold together to glass that whole piece?

ChrisSlicks 03-07-2011 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikon FM (Post 974468)
Where would you initiate the 3" intake? Popping out the pieces outboard of the fangs without additional cutting is what I'm going for to keep the look clean….possibly would minimize the flow performance though?

I was going to reduce the x-section area from the fender liner flange to the end of the duct nearest the rotor to increase the velocity.

This is not going to be a quick turn around based on my current schedule but I'll show pics when I'm closer.

I was planning on initiating at the fang. The fang isn't round but the shape is smooth enough that I think it would be efficient even if the shapes aren't a perfect match.

Putting the reducer at the fender liner would be a good place for it, there seems to be enough room up to that point for the 3" duct.

KaienZ34 03-07-2011 07:48 PM

Anyone thinking of something for the Amuse kit ??

Nikon FM 03-07-2011 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisSlicks (Post 974547)
I was planning on initiating at the fang. The fang isn't round but the shape is smooth enough that I think it would be efficient even if the shapes aren't a perfect match.

Putting the reducer at the fender liner would be a good place for it, there seems to be enough room up to that point for the 3" duct.

Yeah, the transition to a round pipe will occur just after/behind the fang opening and should be the size of a standard ID for a hi temp duct (not some crappy dryer hose)….something like this:

McMaster-Carr

ChrisSlicks 03-08-2011 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikon FM (Post 974950)
Yeah, the transition to a round pipe will occur just after/behind the fang opening and should be the size of a standard ID for a hi temp duct (not some crappy dryer hose)….something like this:

McMaster-Carr

Yep, love that McMaster web site. They did a brilliant job designing it and putting in all the data.

This is what I was thinking to screw in behind the fang.
Allstar Performance ALL42140 - Allstar Performance Brake Ducts - Overview - SummitRacing.com

ChrisSlicks 05-13-2011 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN (Post 690660)
It's being worked on.. the goal was to incorporate a design that would work with the stock 370Z, Nismo and the STILLEN Fascia.. the engineers have been working on the supercharger, but focus should shift back once that's wrapped up.

Anything Josh?

gpa7pk 05-13-2011 09:25 PM

I received info from "Deep Throat" at Stillen that the 370Z brake cooling duct system/kit is not in progess as the feeling is the market is perceived to be too soft to pursue.

Sure hope someone comes up the good solution.

KaienZ34 05-13-2011 10:29 PM

I think it's more that the parts cost are to high for the market.

FL 4Motion 05-14-2011 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpa7pk (Post 1109741)
I received info from "Deep Throat" at Stillen that the 370Z brake cooling duct system/kit is not in progess as the feeling is the market is perceived to be too soft to pursue.

Sure hope someone comes up the good solution.


:mad:

flashburn 05-14-2011 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpa7pk (Post 1109741)
I received info from "Deep Throat" at Stillen that the 370Z brake cooling duct system/kit is not in progess as the feeling is the market is perceived to be too soft to pursue.

Sure hope someone comes up the good solution.

Lame! They would get a pretty good amount of sales I think, and I can't imagine there is THAT much R&D that needs to go into this kind of product.


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