Getting coilovers and I have few questions

VancouverZ34 · 05-12-2010, 12:39 AM

Hey guys,
I've been debating in between TEIN MONOFLEX and KW V3.
I was told my many people that KW V3 is definitely a better product.
Anyways, my questions are:
1. front camber kit and rear camber kit are recommanded when I get coilovers? and which brand would you recommand?
2. which sway bar / stabilizer is the best or close to best?
3. how much should I expect to pay for the installation of coilovers?(I just don't wanna get ripped off by these people at the shop)

Thanks in advance guys!

CrownR426 · 05-12-2010, 01:39 AM

Uh...
I'd rather have tein monoflex than kwv3

Chris@FsP · 05-12-2010, 01:10 PM

How are the KW twin tube design superior to the Tein Mono Flex's mono tube design?

kevin.z · 05-12-2010, 02:30 PM

1. Yes, SPC front and rear camber arms
2. Hotchkis sways
3. I dont know!

SE · 05-12-2010, 02:37 PM

Due to the design of the front suspension, your front camber should be fine even after running coilovers. If you want a little more adjustability, wait until SPL or someone other than SPC releases a front control/camber arm. Camber should be adjustable within stock parameters even after coilovers. I got an alignment after a 2.5" drop and my camber was almost in line with the stock numbers. The only thing I would recommend is a rear camber or toe kit. Go with SPL for this.

For sway bars, go with whatever brand you want. Whiteline, Tanabe, Cusco, and Hotchkis are all good brands. Find something with adjustable endlinks so you can fine tune and dial in your setup. Without this adjustability, you're better off sticking to stock. I would even dare say that most people don't even need sway bars and tune their setup for body roll with dampening.

For labor rates, it's good to shop around. A coilover install shouldn't take more than 2 hours, so call around and ask for the current labor rates. You should take your car to one shop and stick to it so you can establish yourself and people know what they worked on in case you have problems.

CrownR426 · 05-12-2010, 03:01 PM

OP, who are the people you asked?
I hope it's not anyone from here...

It all depends on what kind of driving you do.
You definetly need some help if you think kw's > mono flex

Chris@FsP · 05-12-2010, 03:10 PM

OP, if you change your mind, we have a set of Tein Mono Flex's here at the shop, packed up and ready to ship if needed

VancouverZ34 · 05-12-2010, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownR426

OP, who are the people you asked?
I hope it's not anyone from here...

It all depends on what kind of driving you do.
You definetly need some help if you think kw's > mono flex

I thought mono flex > kw's b4
however, all these shops I've been going to said KW's are a lot better in terms of quality... LOL

VancouverZ34 · 05-12-2010, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FailsafePerf

OP, if you change your mind, we have a set of Tein Mono Flex's here at the shop, packed up and ready to ship if needed

PM me the price of monoflex + EDFC (separately) shipped to Vancouver Canada
Thanks.

daleks · 05-12-2010, 04:18 PM

The Tein's come with pillow ball upper mounts, which may make noise, but provide sharper support. The KW V3's use your stock (rubber) upper mount, and also have progressive rather than linear springs. Boo. That said, both KW and Tein make nice products.

Chris@FsP · 05-12-2010, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VancouverZ34

PM me the price of monoflex + EDFC (separately) shipped to Vancouver Canada
Thanks.

PM sent

CrownR426 · 05-13-2010, 10:23 AM

Talk about getting stiff! lol..

Pat@SMM · 05-13-2010, 11:06 AM

The TEIN Monoflex is what I'm running on mine right now and there's definitely more than enough adjustability in the suspension to get the camber and toe within stock settings. The build quality of the Monoflex is exceptional and don't think that the KW's are any better.
I'll be lapping tomorrow and playing around with setups although I'll be switching over to a set of AST coilovers in the near future that they are developing with COBB.

Chris@FsP · 05-13-2010, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrownR426

Talk about getting stiff! lol..

Talk about a bad visual!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pat@SMM

The TEIN Monoflex is what I'm running on mine right now and there's definitely more than enough adjustability in the suspension to get the camber and toe within stock settings. The build quality of the Monoflex is exceptional and don't think that the KW's are any better.
I'll be lapping tomorrow and playing around with setups although I'll be switching over to a set of AST coilovers in the near future that they are developing with COBB.

RCZ · 05-13-2010, 11:57 AM

In terms of quality of a product, I'd go KW. I've had TEIN in the past (flex) and everything started creaking when going over fast bumps. No problems from my KW.

There is a difference though in performance. The KW V3's are designed for the street with some track. KW Clubsports are more track with some street. Don't think they have clubsports for us yet.

I think the monotubes are better compared to a set of clubsports.

Great resource

http://www.ek9.org/forum/suspension/...info-tein.html

05-12-2010, 12:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
VancouverZ34 Base Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Vancouver, BC Posts: 235 Drives: 1 //M coupe Rep Power: 15	Getting coilovers and I have few questions Hey guys, I've been debating in between TEIN MONOFLEX and KW V3. I was told my many people that KW V3 is definitely a better product. Anyways, my questions are: 1. front camber kit and rear camber kit are recommanded when I get coilovers? and which brand would you recommand? 2. which sway bar / stabilizer is the best or close to best? 3. how much should I expect to pay for the installation of coilovers?(I just don't wanna get ripped off by these people at the shop) Thanks in advance guys!

05-12-2010, 01:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 848	Uh... I'd rather have tein monoflex than kwv3 __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

05-12-2010, 03:01 PM	#6 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 848	OP, who are the people you asked? I hope it's not anyone from here... It all depends on what kind of driving you do. You definetly need some help if you think kw's > mono flex __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

05-13-2010, 10:23 AM	#12 (permalink)
CrownR426 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: South Korea Posts: 4,676 Drives: Manual Rep Power: 848	Talk about getting stiff! lol.. __________________ Love + Hardwork + Passion RIP SVTRacer

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Chris@FsP Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 430 Drives: 2008 350Z TT Rep Power: 368	How are the KW twin tube design superior to the Tein Mono Flex's mono tube design?

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kevin.z Enthusiast Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: vancouver(shipping:WA Posts: 359 Drives: 09 370z M6 PGtouring Rep Power: 16	1. Yes, SPC front and rear camber arms 2. Hotchkis sways 3. I dont know!

05-12-2010, 02:37 PM	#5 (permalink)
SE A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 4,236 Drives: 370z/STI/EVO X/IS-F Rep Power: 23	Due to the design of the front suspension, your front camber should be fine even after running coilovers. If you want a little more adjustability, wait until SPL or someone other than SPC releases a front control/camber arm. Camber should be adjustable within stock parameters even after coilovers. I got an alignment after a 2.5" drop and my camber was almost in line with the stock numbers. The only thing I would recommend is a rear camber or toe kit. Go with SPL for this. For sway bars, go with whatever brand you want. Whiteline, Tanabe, Cusco, and Hotchkis are all good brands. Find something with adjustable endlinks so you can fine tune and dial in your setup. Without this adjustability, you're better off sticking to stock. I would even dare say that most people don't even need sway bars and tune their setup for body roll with dampening. For labor rates, it's good to shop around. A coilover install shouldn't take more than 2 hours, so call around and ask for the current labor rates. You should take your car to one shop and stick to it so you can establish yourself and people know what they worked on in case you have problems.

05-12-2010, 03:10 PM	#7 (permalink)
Chris@FsP Enthusiast Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Tulsa, OK Posts: 430 Drives: 2008 350Z TT Rep Power: 368	OP, if you change your mind, we have a set of Tein Mono Flex's here at the shop, packed up and ready to ship if needed

05-12-2010, 04:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
daleks Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: St. Louis Posts: 424 Drives: 2011 Evo X MR Rep Power: 15	The Tein's come with pillow ball upper mounts, which may make noise, but provide sharper support. The KW V3's use your stock (rubber) upper mount, and also have progressive rather than linear springs. Boo. That said, both KW and Tein make nice products.

05-13-2010, 11:06 AM	#13 (permalink)
Pat@SMM Base Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Canada Posts: 119 Drives: 2010 370Z Rep Power: 15	The TEIN Monoflex is what I'm running on mine right now and there's definitely more than enough adjustability in the suspension to get the camber and toe within stock settings. The build quality of the Monoflex is exceptional and don't think that the KW's are any better. I'll be lapping tomorrow and playing around with setups although I'll be switching over to a set of AST coilovers in the near future that they are developing with COBB.

05-13-2010, 11:57 AM	#15 (permalink)
RCZ A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 6,403 Drives: '09 370Z Rep Power: 1119	In terms of quality of a product, I'd go KW. I've had TEIN in the past (flex) and everything started creaking when going over fast bumps. No problems from my KW. There is a difference though in performance. The KW V3's are designed for the street with some track. KW Clubsports are more track with some street. Don't think they have clubsports for us yet. I think the monotubes are better compared to a set of clubsports. Great resource http://www.ek9.org/forum/suspension/...info-tein.html