brake fluid recommendations

physics · 11-01-2018, 07:10 AM

I used to use a German fluid called ATE Super Blue in a Porsche I had years ago, however I believe that the D.O.T. has banned its use in the US now. I had a serious problem with boiling the fluid in my front brakes when driving fast and braking hard, which this fluid prevented. It was about twice the price of a typical premium brake fluid but worth it to me, as I didn't have to bleed the brakes so often after I started using it.

JARblue · 11-01-2018, 07:12 AM

ATE Super Blue is illegal in the US because of it's color

I still managed to boil the Super Blue fluid with some threshold braking maneuvers. Switched to Motul RBF600 and haven't look back since.

physics · 04-26-2019, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tunerguy1989

Have any of you guys heard of ATE super blue racing brake fluid, its german. I am starting to track my honda and the brakes were awesome out on the track with this stuff no fade of anykind. Just curious if any of you guys thought about this for the Z.

Edit: my bad just finished readin whole thread. I like ATE super blue just curious if anyone has it in their Z and how it feels.

I used it in a Porsche that I had in the 90s to cure a problem with boiling brake fluid and it worked great. I had tried many other good fluids but would still wind up with a spongy brake pedal after braking from high speed. The ATE came in two colors, blue and amber, so it was easy to see when the old fluid was out when flushing the system.

osbornsm · 04-26-2019, 11:22 AM

As of TODAY... this thread is exactly 9 years old.

Have we covered everyone's brake fluid needs yet?

OEM = suck
DOT 3 = suck
DOT 4 = good
SuperBlue is not sold in the USA
ATE TYP 200 is superblue without dye
Motul RBF600 is better
Castrol SRF is the best

Don't mix any brake fluid besides 3 & 4.
Adding DOT 5 will mess your sh*t up.

</thread>

Hotrodz · 04-26-2019, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm

As of TODAY... this thread is exactly 9 years old.

Have we covered everyone's brake fluid needs yet?

OEM = suck
DOT 3 = suck
DOT 4 = good
SuperBlue is not sold in the USA
ATE TYP 200 is superblue without dye
Motul RBF600 is better
Castrol SRF is the best

Don't mix any brake fluid besides 3 & 4.

Adding DOT 5 will mess your sh*t up.

</thread>

LMAO, AGREED!!!!

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bunk · 04-26-2019, 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by osbornsm

As of TODAY... this thread is exactly 9 years old.

Have we covered everyone's brake fluid needs yet?

OEM = suck
DOT 3 = suck
DOT 4 = good
SuperBlue is not sold in the USA
ATE TYP 200 is superblue without dye
Motul RBF600 is better
Castrol SRF is the best

Don't mix any brake fluid besides 3 & 4.
Adding DOT 5 will mess your sh*t up.

</thread>

So... .is there a recommended brake fluid?

osbornsm · 04-26-2019, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bunk

So... is there a recommended brake fluid?

Rusty · 04-26-2019, 02:54 PM

You forgot about 5 and 5.1. Don't confuse the two. 5 is silicone base and doesn't mix with 3, 4, and 5.1.

teknoprep · 09-28-2020, 06:45 AM

I only track my TT Z

Yesterday at pocono raceway I lost brakes on the infield turns and had to downshift hard and pump breaks

This was on stock fluid after 6 runs of extremely hard breaking from 145 to 60 using carbotech brake pads slotted stop tech rotors. It was obvious I boiled the fluid.

Put 4 ways on got off of race line and gave everyone point by's until pit row. At speed this is probably the scariest thing in racing to any driver other than knowing imminent death. So point to make is spend the money and get the fluid if you are ever going to track your car.

Optimiser · 09-28-2020, 07:35 AM

I use Motul 5.1

JARblue · 09-28-2020, 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teknoprep

This was on stock fluid... It was obvious I boiled the fluid.

Car & Driver did the same thing back in 2008 on their first test drive and put the car into the wall

Get some proper brake fluid; even Motul 5.1 isn't really up to heavy track duty. Try Motul RBF600/660 or Castrol SRF or Torque RT700 for your needs.

Quicksilvers · 09-28-2020, 10:49 AM

Motul RBF 600 or 660

Hotrodz · 09-28-2020, 04:28 PM

Castro SRF is probably the best and is the most expensive. I know experienced drives that run it for a couple of years or more. The stuff is awesome. Motul 600/660 and Endless 600/660 are also really good. Don't skimp on buying good brake fluid as you stated no brakes or soft brake can end badly.

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rspray2000 · 01-24-2021, 07:14 PM

Is it true the GT-R uses DOT4 fluid and if so, will a dealership perform a brake flush and replace with it? I know it’s not a terrible DIY, but I’m probably going for an AT flush anyway, so was going to at least get a quote.

Rusty · 01-24-2021, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rspray2000

Is it true the GT-R uses DOT4 fluid and if so, will a dealership perform a brake flush and replace with it? I know it’s not a terrible DIY, but I’m probably going for an AT flush anyway, so was going to at least get a quote.

GT-R's do use Dot 4 fluid. Depending on the dealership. You just might just off the shelf Dot 4.

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osbornsm A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: WHAT Posts: 2,551 Drives: 2018 Camaro SS 1LE Rep Power: 424	As of TODAY... this thread is exactly 9 years old. Have we covered everyone's brake fluid needs yet? OEM = suck DOT 3 = suck DOT 4 = good SuperBlue is not sold in the USA ATE TYP 200 is superblue without dye Motul RBF600 is better Castrol SRF is the best Don't mix any brake fluid besides 3 & 4. Adding DOT 5 will mess your sh*t up. </thread> JARblue, Rusty, axmea? and 3 others like this.

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,159 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	You forgot about 5 and 5.1. Don't confuse the two. 5 is silicone base and doesn't mix with 3, 4, and 5.1. bunk likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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teknoprep Base Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: PA, USA Posts: 15 Drives: 13 Nissan 370z PW A7 Rep Power: 11	Changing to Motul 660 Today I only track my TT Z Yesterday at pocono raceway I lost brakes on the infield turns and had to downshift hard and pump breaks This was on stock fluid after 6 runs of extremely hard breaking from 145 to 60 using carbotech brake pads slotted stop tech rotors. It was obvious I boiled the fluid. Put 4 ways on got off of race line and gave everyone point by's until pit row. At speed this is probably the scariest thing in racing to any driver other than knowing imminent death. So point to make is spend the money and get the fluid if you are ever going to track your car.

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Quicksilvers A True Z Fanatic Join Date: May 2017 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 2,039 Drives: 2017 370z Rep Power: 25463	Motul RBF 600 or 660 __________________ Mr. Clean

11-01-2018, 07:10 AM	#181 (permalink)
physics Base Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Berkeley, CA Posts: 40 Drives: 19 Nissan 370Z SC 6M Rep Power: 14	I used to use a German fluid called ATE Super Blue in a Porsche I had years ago, however I believe that the D.O.T. has banned its use in the US now. I had a serious problem with boiling the fluid in my front brakes when driving fast and braking hard, which this fluid prevented. It was about twice the price of a typical premium brake fluid but worth it to me, as I didn't have to bleed the brakes so often after I started using it.

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Optimiser Enthusiast Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 455 Drives: 2012 Nissan 370Z MT Rep Power: 20144	I use Motul 5.1

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Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	Castro SRF is probably the best and is the most expensive. I know experienced drives that run it for a couple of years or more. The stuff is awesome. Motul 600/660 and Endless 600/660 are also really good. Don't skimp on buying good brake fluid as you stated no brakes or soft brake can end badly. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk JARblue and Rusty like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

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rspray2000 Base Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: MA Posts: 167 Drives: 2013 T/S Roadster AT Rep Power: 4234	Is it true the GT-R uses DOT4 fluid and if so, will a dealership perform a brake flush and replace with it? I know it’s not a terrible DIY, but I’m probably going for an AT flush anyway, so was going to at least get a quote.

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