Bilstein suspension kit

mattjk · 09-10-2010, 09:57 PM

wow, I LOVE bilstein.

However, the rears they only recommend it lower down to 35mm. If that is the most, seems like these aren't short stroke.

I think people that switch over to a full coilover system would like a short stroke set to go lower than 35mm (1 3/8th inch)

BeauNC · 09-10-2010, 10:05 PM

"Generally", the more you lower a car, the more you screw up the geometry that the original engineers designed into it. It may actually go lower, they just don't recommend it.

mattjk · 09-10-2010, 10:19 PM

BeauNC, well I hope you are correct in that assumption that the engineers don't want to go lower than stock geometry before needing camber adjusters.

the majority of people are going to want to go lower than 1 3/8th... probably down to 2".

It'd be nice to find out if these will be short stroke. I know I would not be interested in these if they were not.

my car is currently lowered 1.5" and I still want to go lower.

BeauNC · 09-10-2010, 10:25 PM

More so than just camber and toe adjusters, though, the camber gain, bump steer, toe gain, roll center, and maybe some other stuff could be negatively affected.

Fat Cats Motorsports is well known in the Miata crowd for modifying Bilsteins if necessary.

Josh@STILLEN · 09-10-2010, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BeauNC

So did these ever come to the states?

Yes, I've been meaning to put together a post.. they are available.. PM me for details, and I can put together the info and pricing on Monday..

Heard word this week that they are stateside..

mattjk · 09-10-2010, 10:35 PM

BeauNC, I don't need an education in suspension geometry. I spent 7 years building off-road race cars.

Thank you though, that was very nice of you to take the time however.

I just want to know if these are short stroke.

KaienZ34 · 10-01-2010, 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh@STILLEN

Yes, I've been meaning to put together a post.. they are available.. PM me for details, and I can put together the info and pricing on Monday..

Heard word this week that they are stateside..

Any info on price, and the specs on them ?

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09-10-2010, 09:57 PM	#16 (permalink)
mattjk Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Azusa Posts: 331 Drives: 09 370z K51 09 Elise Rep Power: 267	wow, I LOVE bilstein. However, the rears they only recommend it lower down to 35mm. If that is the most, seems like these aren't short stroke. I think people that switch over to a full coilover system would like a short stroke set to go lower than 35mm (1 3/8th inch)

09-10-2010, 10:05 PM	#17 (permalink)
BeauNC Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 21 Drives: Blazer Rep Power: 15	"Generally", the more you lower a car, the more you screw up the geometry that the original engineers designed into it. It may actually go lower, they just don't recommend it.

09-10-2010, 10:19 PM	#18 (permalink)
mattjk Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Azusa Posts: 331 Drives: 09 370z K51 09 Elise Rep Power: 267	BeauNC, well I hope you are correct in that assumption that the engineers don't want to go lower than stock geometry before needing camber adjusters. the majority of people are going to want to go lower than 1 3/8th... probably down to 2". It'd be nice to find out if these will be short stroke. I know I would not be interested in these if they were not. my car is currently lowered 1.5" and I still want to go lower.

09-10-2010, 10:25 PM	#19 (permalink)
BeauNC Base Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Mills River, NC Posts: 21 Drives: Blazer Rep Power: 15	More so than just camber and toe adjusters, though, the camber gain, bump steer, toe gain, roll center, and maybe some other stuff could be negatively affected. Fat Cats Motorsports is well known in the Miata crowd for modifying Bilsteins if necessary.

09-10-2010, 10:35 PM	#21 (permalink)
mattjk Enthusiast Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Azusa Posts: 331 Drives: 09 370z K51 09 Elise Rep Power: 267	BeauNC, I don't need an education in suspension geometry. I spent 7 years building off-road race cars. Thank you though, that was very nice of you to take the time however. I just want to know if these are short stroke.