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2string1 06-22-2022 02:28 PM

Are these spacers any good?
 
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I am wanting black ones to go on this.


https://garageline.com/wheel-spacers...RoCODsQAvD_BwE

https://garageline.com/wheel-spacers...BoCUYUQAvD_BwE

k67p67 06-22-2022 03:26 PM

Since they are type II spacers, just make sure you have enough relief on the backsides of the wheels for the tips of the OEM studs (and some of the aftermarket nut on the 15mm spacers).

2string1 06-22-2022 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by k67p67 (Post 4026676)
Since they are type II spacers, just make sure you have enough relief on the backsides of the wheels for the tips of the OEM studs (and some of the aftermarket nut on the 15mm spacers).

Is it better to get Type 1 spacers?

k67p67 06-22-2022 04:08 PM

Type I spacers require that you hammer-out your existing studs and replace them with extended ones. It's not necessary so long as you have enough relief as mentioned previously.

2string1 06-22-2022 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by k67p67 (Post 4026680)
Type I spacers require that you hammer-out your existing studs and replace them with extended ones. It's not necessary so long as you have enough relief as mentioned previously.

I guess I don’t know what you mean by relief on the back of the wheel. How can I tell if these will work before buying?

k67p67 06-22-2022 05:43 PM

The length of the OEM studs is greater than the thickness of your spacer. Therefore, a portion of the stud will protrude beyond the mounting surface of the spacer. This is a typical 20mm bolt-on spacer. The studs on your car will stick out even further using a 15mm type II (bolt-on) spacer. In addition, some of the spacer mounting nut will also extend beyond the mounting surface.
https://i.imgur.com/eAxJYPT.jpg


Wheels have varying amounts of relief machined into the mounting face. Some wheels have no relief at all. This example is a Nismo v2. It has enough relief to accommodate a 20mm type II spacer. Not sure about a 15mm though. You'll have to research further.
https://i.imgur.com/VW3b2NQ.jpg

2string1 06-22-2022 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by k67p67 (Post 4026683)
The length of the OEM studs is greater than the thickness of your spacer. Therefore, a portion of the stud will protrude beyond the mounting surface of the spacer. This is a typical 20mm bolt-on spacer. The studs on your car will stick out even further using a 15mm type II (bolt-on) spacer. In addition, some of the spacer mounting nut will also extend beyond the mounting surface.
https://i.imgur.com/eAxJYPT.jpg


Wheels have varying amounts of relief machined into the mounting face. Some wheels have no relief at all. This example is a Nismo v2. It has enough relief to accommodate a 20mm type II spacer. Not sure about a 15mm though. You'll have to research further.
https://i.imgur.com/VW3b2NQ.jpg

Thank You, great explanation. Now I understand. Are my wheels the Nismo v2's? I can't seem to verify that.

k67p67 06-22-2022 06:07 PM

Your wheels are Nismo v1 (2010-2014).

2string1 06-22-2022 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by k67p67 (Post 4026685)
Your wheels are Nismo v1 (2010-2014).

Ok so maybe they won’t work with these spacers. I wouldn’t know how to check before I buy. As you can tell I know nothing about doing this. Thanks for your help.

k67p67 06-22-2022 07:32 PM

I can't speak to the clearance on that particular set of wheels. You'll have to research it.

2string1 06-23-2022 09:06 AM

Is 20MM for the rear and 15MM for the front a good choice?

cv129 06-23-2022 10:04 AM

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I’m on 13mm, stock alignment #’s, lowered about an inch. 275/35 front, 285/35 rear RE71 (sidewall not as bulged compare some other brands of summer tires).

OptionZero 06-23-2022 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 2string1 (Post 4026704)
Is 20MM for the rear and 15MM for the front a good choice?

Learn how wheel sizing works

Buy wheels that fit

k67p67 06-23-2022 10:59 AM

What brand/model/size tires are you running? What strut/shock/spring combo? Any other supporting suspension arms?

Spooler 06-23-2022 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 4026714)
Learn how wheel sizing works

Buy wheels that fit

Amen to that.

k67p67 06-23-2022 11:22 AM

I agree that whenever possible, wheels with proper specs should be sourced in order to avoid the use of spacers. However, given that v1 Nismos only come in one size, it's not like OP has a choice.

2string1 06-23-2022 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by k67p67 (Post 4026715)
What brand/model/size tires are you running? What strut/shock/springs? Any other supporting suspension arms?

FIREHAWK INDY 500 Rear, 285-35-19 Front, 245-40-19 Koni Yellows, Swift lowering springs. SPL Billet Rear Camber Arms.

k67p67 06-23-2022 12:25 PM

So, 19x9.5 +40 and 19x10.5 +23 Nismo v1 wheels with stock size rubber. Swifts drop approximately 1". You may see rare rubbing in the front if traversing uneven surfaces at speed if you go with the 15mm spacers. 20mm in the rear will be fine as you have camber arms.Ideal fix would be to get some FUCA. Alternatively, you could go with 10mm in front. Either way, I would go with type I spacers in front and type II in the rear.

2string1 06-23-2022 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by k67p67 (Post 4026723)
So, 19x9.5 +40 and 19x10.5 +23 Nismo v1 wheels with stock size rubber. Swifts drop approximately 1". You may see rare rubbing in the front if traversing uneven surfaces at speed if you go with the 15mm spacers. 20mm in the rear will be fine as you have camber arms.Ideal fix would be to get some FUCA. Alternatively, you could go with 10mm in front. Either way, I would go with type I spacers in front and type II in the rear.

Thanks for your help.

OptionZero 06-23-2022 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by k67p67 (Post 4026718)
I agree that whenever possible, wheels with proper specs should be sourced in order to avoid the use of spacers. However, given that v1 Nismos only come in one size, it's not like OP has a choice.

He could learn what size his own wheels are

And how spacers affect sizing

2string1 06-23-2022 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 4026729)
He could learn what size his own wheels are

And how spacers affect sizing

Or I could ask for help or hire a mechanic. I don’t need to know how spacers affect sizing. I only want to know which ones are good and what would work best. If you don’t care to help me, thats fine.

k67p67 06-23-2022 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by OptionZero (Post 4026729)
He could learn what size his own wheels are

And how spacers affect sizing

That knowledge would be useful to most. However, OP's history shows that he prefers to be spoon fed.

SeeThruHead 06-23-2022 11:20 PM

http://www.the370z.com/nismo-370z/10...ml#post3317177

in short:
no, bolt on spacers (type 2) will not work on the front. but will work on the back.
you probably want 15mm front spacers, you want them to be hub centric. an you will need extended studs
the studs can't be extend too much, (15mm = the the spacer width would be best)
you can't use super long studs because the washer style lug nuts from Nissan are closed ended (though you could grind off the end if you really wanted super long studs)

in the rear 20mm bolt on will be fine. the garageline don't look any different than any other spacer i've seen.
i would suggest the easy route


if you really need it to be black. mask off the faces and paint the edges. You won't be able to tell the difference.

But H&R sells 15mm DRS spacers as well that come black if you are set on it.

2string1 06-24-2022 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SeeThruHead (Post 4026739)
http://www.the370z.com/nismo-370z/10...ml#post3317177

in short:
no, bolt on spacers (type 2) will not work on the front. but will work on the back.
you probably want 15mm front spacers, you want them to be hub centric. an you will need extended studs
the studs can't be extend too much, (15mm = the the spacer width would be best)
you can't use super long studs because the washer style lug nuts from Nissan are closed ended (though you could grind off the end if you really wanted super long studs)

in the rear 20mm bolt on will be fine. the garageline don't look any different than any other spacer i've seen.
i would suggest the easy route


if you really need it to be black. mask off the faces and paint the edges. You won't be able to tell the difference.

But H&R sells 15mm DRS spacers as well that come black if you are set on it.

Thank You

2string1 06-24-2022 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by k67p67 (Post 4026738)
That knowledge would be useful to most. However, OP's history shows that he prefers to be spoon fed.

I knew I was pushing it with my questions. Useful knowledge to most but not for me. I'm close to 75 years old and chances are I will never want spacers again in my life. I may not even want them now. My wheels and tire sizes are pretty common. So is my suspension. I was hoping someone with the same who has used spacers would enlighten me with their knowledge and real time experiences. Your pics and explanations were very helpful and I thank you for that.

THE BULL 06-24-2022 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 2string1 (Post 4026741)
I knew I was pushing it with my questions. Useful knowledge to most but not for me. I'm close to 75 years old and chances are I will never want spacers again in my life. I may not even want them now. My wheels and tire sizes are pretty common. So is my suspension. I was hoping someone with the same who has used spacers would enlighten me with their knowledge and real time experiences. Your pics and explanations were very helpful and I thank you for that.

I had a somewhat shitty experience with a set.

Billet type 2 spacers, 20mm all around, measured flat, hub centric, OEM 19s

Started to develop vibrations over months, constantly checking for looseness, rotated the spacers around, balanced wheels, etc.

Upon doing rotors I noticed the surfaces of the rotors had hotspots all around the hub, rotor, wheel.

I'm leaning more towards the spacers, I believe either the studs on the spacers were cheap and stretched unevenly over time or the nature of + scrub radius excerting more weight pulls on the studs and deforms the AL over time. I have my doubts being that 20mm of billet AL should be pretty strong to prevent deformations however a stretching stud in this spacer will wreak havoc on the rotating surfaces.

It appears that my fix will require new hubs and rotors.


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