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Horrible ride quality and can't figure out why

Originally Posted by Spooler The regular will suffice. That is what I have. I really appreciate all the help!

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Old 12-30-2020, 11:35 PM   #46 (permalink)
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@OptionZero @Spooler and @Rusty (and whoever else wants to chime in)...

Is there a reason to spend the extra cash on the billet versions of the SPL arms? Or will the regular titanium tube style versions suffice?
SPL only makes one version that I know of. It's $999.00 on their site.

The SPL's and the VooDoo's are the only ones the you can adjust without taking them off. They hold their adjustment and don't break.
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SPL only makes one version that I know of. It's $999.00 on their site.

The SPL's and the VooDoo's are the only ones the you can adjust without taking them off. They hold their adjustment and don't break.
yeah that's the front control arm, I was talking about the rear camber and toe arms. I'm going to hold off on the fronts and just get the rear in spec for now.

but speaking of the fronts... do typical alignment techs even know how to adjust those? can each side of the arm be reached from underneath the car without removing the wheel?

I really hate the idiots that work in the shops around here. ******* florida.
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yeah that's the front control arm, I was talking about the rear camber and toe arms. I'm going to hold off on the fronts and just get the rear in spec for now.

but speaking of the fronts... do typical alignment techs even know how to adjust those? can each side of the arm be reached from underneath the car without removing the wheel?

I really hate the idiots that work in the shops around here. ******* florida.
No problem making adjustment without removing the tires. To loosen the pinch bolts. Go behind the tire with a long extension with an allen bit. The camber/caster is over the top of the tire with a long extension and socket.
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yeah that's the front control arm, I was talking about the rear camber and toe arms. I'm going to hold off on the fronts and just get the rear in spec for now.

but speaking of the fronts... do typical alignment techs even know how to adjust those? can each side of the arm be reached from underneath the car without removing the wheel?

I really hate the idiots that work in the shops around here. ******* florida.
Definitely ask the shops in advance if they have knowledge of adjusting anything SPL; as it’s easy....but you definitely don’t want a beginner to be dinking/scratching up your beautiful parts (that are mostly hidden).
Especially the set screws
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Get SPL eccentric lockout kit while you’re at it.
With the rear arms, the eccentric bolts are not used for alignment anymore and only serve as a slippage point


Don’t go to these franchise alignment shops that only work on minivans and ****

Contact your local track groups via Facebook, local track day organizers, or auto X groups and ask where they go. Use a shop that does a lot of custom performance work
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So far this is my plan of action...

- switch back over to true rear coilovers
- get SPL front upper control arms
- get SPL rear toe Arms
- replace Z1 camber arms with SPL camber arms
- new tires
- another alignment
- stop complaining

I know its a super debatable topic, but are my upper strut mount studs really at risk with true rear setup? They're welded to the chassis and if they ever snapped or stripped, I feel like I'd be ******. I also can't imagine theres a noticeable difference in handling even though that's the common rumor but still curious what you guys have to say about it.
There’s no performance difference
If none of the people that beat their true types at the track have ever experienced damage, then I doubt anything you’re doing will
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No problem making adjustment without removing the tires. To loosen the pinch bolts. Go behind the tire with a long extension with an allen bit. The camber/caster is over the top of the tire with a long extension and socket.
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Get SPL eccentric lockout kit while you’re at it.
With the rear arms, the eccentric bolts are not used for alignment anymore and only serve as a slippage point


Don’t go to these franchise alignment shops that only work on minivans and ****

Contact your local track groups via Facebook, local track day organizers, or auto X groups and ask where they go. Use a shop that does a lot of custom performance work
Yup, already planned to get the lockout kit

And that's a good idea I hadn't thought of. Definitely going to ask around this time.

Thanks again guys, I'll come back and update this thread in a few weeks when I'm all tuned up
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