Clarification needed on camber kit requirement

Ralphatron · 12-17-2020, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

I believe he was talking about the spc toe bolts which I need to install because the spl camber arms alone wouldn't bring my camber into spec without throwing the toe out of spec.

Just curious how low you are to have your camber that out of spec that adjusting it would throw the toe out of spec?

I just got the z1 camber arms but haven't put them on yet, my rear height is above 26" from the ground to to center point of the fender wall which imo is nothing crazy. Visible negative camber is almost barely noticeable. Planning to get my alignment done this weekend, but now I'm worried I'll need the aftermarket toe bolts to keep it in spec.

Also, z1 instructions say to put RED threadlocker on which comes with the arms, but that sounds like a terrible idea because wouldn't this prevent future adjustments to be made during alignments? If I use the blue threadlocker during installation instead, will that allow the alignment tech to adjust it as needed and then secure the threads again?

redondoaveb · 12-17-2020, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphatron

Just curious how low you are to have your camber that out of spec that adjusting it would throw the toe out of spec?

I just got the z1 camber arms but haven't put them on yet, my rear height is above 26" from the ground to to center point of the fender wall which imo is nothing crazy. Visible negative camber is almost barely noticeable. Planning to get my alignment done this weekend, but now I'm worried I'll need the aftermarket toe bolts to keep it in spec.

Also, z1 instructions say to put RED threadlocker on which comes with the arms, but that sounds like a terrible idea because wouldn't this prevent future adjustments to be made during alignments? If I use the blue threadlocker during installation instead, will that allow the alignment tech to adjust it as needed and then secure the threads again?

I'm at 27" and rear camber is -2.25. That was the best they could do without screwing up the toe. I want my rear camber less than -2.00. Depending on what you want your rear camber, you may not need the toe bolts.

I can't comment on the Z1 arms, I've got SPL but red loctite doesn't sound like a good idea

Rusty · 12-17-2020, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

I'm at 27" and rear camber is -2.25. That was the best they could do without screwing up the toe. I want my rear camber less than -2.00. Depending on what you want your rear camber, you may not need the toe bolts.

I can't comment on the Z1 arms, I've got SPL but red loctite doesn't sound like a good idea

I got anti-seize on all of the threads for all of my SPL parts. Nothing worse than having threads galled in aluminum.

Ralphatron · 12-17-2020, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

I'm at 27" and rear camber is -2.25. That was the best they could do without screwing up the toe. I want my rear camber less than -2.00. Depending on what you want your rear camber, you may not need the toe bolts.

I can't comment on the Z1 arms, I've got SPL but red loctite doesn't sound like a good idea

damn, isn't 27" not far from stock? I wonder if the difference in our wheels/tires might have something to do with it but I guess we'll see what happens when its up on the rack. I've got my rears at 26.5 right now but have no idea what they will say about getting things in spec with just these aftermarket camber arms. Are you getting uneven tire wear with it at -2.25 ?

redondoaveb · 12-17-2020, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphatron

damn, isn't 27" not far from stock? I wonder if the difference in our wheels/tires might have something to do with it but I guess we'll see what happens when its up on the rack. I've got my rears at 26.5 right now but have no idea what they will say about getting things in spec with just these aftermarket camber arms. Are you getting uneven tire wear with it at -2.25 ?

Stock is 27.99. I'm running 315/30/20 on the rear. I haven't put many miles on them yet at that camber spec but I'd be more worried about tire wear if the toe were way out of spec.

Ralphatron · 12-17-2020, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

Stock is 27.99. I'm running 315/30/20 on the rear. I haven't put many miles on them yet at that camber spec but I'd be more worried about tire wear if the toe were way out of spec.

yeah, toe is the devil when it comes to wear. you're running 1 inch larger wheels than me so that is probably skewing the height comparison a tiny bit. I guess I'll just see what happens when I get it aligned. I'll come back and post before and after specs for comparison. thanks!

redondoaveb · 12-17-2020, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ralphatron

yeah, toe is the devil when it comes to wear. you're running 1 inch larger wheels than me so that is probably skewing the height comparison a tiny bit. I guess I'll just see what happens when I get it aligned. I'll come back and post before and after specs for comparison. thanks!

I'm going to raise mine 3/8"-1/2" as I get rubbing over certain bumps, especially at high speeds. Yeah, please post your before and after specs. Here's how mine sits now.

AlWakRa · 12-18-2020, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by redondoaveb

Stock is 27.99. I'm running 315/30/20 on the rear. I haven't put many miles on them yet at that camber spec but I'd be more worried about tire wear if the toe were way out of spec.

I agree, toe is the one to look after, long time, before I get my spl toe arm (with true type coilovers) and toe bolt as well, I ran -2.6 rear camber to get the toe closer to 0.20 in each side, on r888r, they had more wear inside, but I got a full season out of them.

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