Front/rear sway bar questions

Ralphatron

lol, I said I haven't done the alignment yet since I'm trying to finalize my configuration and final ride height. I'm definitely planning to get it done as soon as I decide what I'm keeping on the car. Why would I get it aligned if I know I'm going to change the suspension configuration and then have to re-align it again at $100 bucks a pop.

geokots

Because not getting the alignment won't give you a true indication of the ride/fitment.

Rusty

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Ralphatron

lol I'm fully aware of why an alignment is needed and what it can do to the car when it's not aligned. Not just by being told or reading it, I've actually experienced it many times back in the day on my older cars.

Right now I'm specifically talking about the way the car handles over imperfect roads. The car actually feels great going straight on smooth roads, and even on smooth turns. but I'm specifically talking about hitting bumps on one side of the car only. If you guys are convinced it's my alignment causing what I'm feeling and can prove it to me somehow I'd be happy to send you an amazon gift card lol.

geokots

LOL so I get a gift card if I do the work for you. Doesn't sound like much of a deal. How about you do the work properly and send me a gift card when I'm right.

Ralphatron

The point was that I can bet an amazon gift card that an alignment is not the problem here. Please go back and read my original post so you can have a better idea of what I'm dealing with because it doesn't seem like you do.

Or you can explain to me in technical detail how camber, castor, or toe adjustment would cause a bump on one side of the car to feel any different instead of assuming an alignment will fix all my issues.

The car does not pull to the left or the right at all. There is no visibile uneven tire wear anywhere. And when I go over bumps or divots in the road that cause BOTH sides to move, I don't have this problem. So again, please explain to me how you're so certain my alignment is the issue?

Rusty

Everytime you change spring rates. You have to get it align.

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wanker

How about purchasing a lifetime alignment deal? They are usually only a couple of hundred bucks.

Also that "darting" sensation you feel likely means that your car is "slammed." The springs are fully compressing.

I'd raise your ride height at least 1/2" and get an alignment.

Rusty

Everytime you change springs, the valving inside the coilover/shock should be change to match the new spring.

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Jhill

He got a complete new kit BC BR 10/8 so that’s not the issue anymore. With his BC BR his ride height isn’t done by preload so that eliminates the slammed no travel issue. Definitely need to get your alignment checked because if your front toe is set - then it will absolutely be twitchy and darty (that’s why it’s done on auto cross cars). As for the bars I’m going off memory here and again totally different car with different suspension design so not even close to apples to apples but I do remember when I had the stiffer front bar before the softer one I put on later trying to eliminate under steer but I also found I had less kickback in the steering wheel on uneven rougher roads. Not sure if that’s what your feeling but ruling out the sway bars is easy enough by just disconnecting it. I guess I’d also pay attention to if it’s darting directly after the front wheel hits which would lead me to think your describing what I felt vs directly after the rear hits like it’s causing the car to step out.

It does seem more and more people are running no rear bar which is something I wanted to try at a safer track like button willow and learn to throttle steer better but then 2020 became a **** show so never got any track time in.