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Having trouble reading and understanding brake/wheel clearance diagrams. I want to order a set of konig countergrams 19x9.5 +25, 19x11 +18, so they will fit a z no problem, and

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Old 10-27-2020, 03:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Having trouble reading and understanding brake/wheel clearance diagrams.

I want to order a set of konig countergrams 19x9.5 +25, 19x11 +18, so they will fit a z no problem, and I’m fairly certain they will clear Akebonos (even with a smal spacer if necessary).

But my problem is I bought a base model with the intent to buy a wilwood set of brakes. The konig fitment guys say the wheel should clear. And then said that the wilwood caliper has better clearance then an Akebono. Does that make sense considering the wilwood is 6 piston and the Akebono is 4? I have posted an akebonos clearance diagram and the wheel fitment guide for the wilwood kit. Anyone with experience help me out?



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Wait....

The CZP diagram seems right, the bono front caliper extending 47.5mm past rotor hub (I measured it at just under 2 in)

The Wilwood graph is showing caliper only extends 1 inch/25.4mm past the rotor hub?

Or I’m reading it wrong...I can learn something new here either way...
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I assumed they were close seeing as akebonos are in no way small/light etc. But the way the guy from konig made it sound is that the wilwood would might fit under the 19x10 +25. Trying to confirm how much space I actually have


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Wait....

The CZP diagram seems right, the bono front caliper extending 47.5mm past rotor hub (I measured it at just under 2 in)

The Wilwood graph is showing caliper only extends 1 inch/25.4mm past the rotor hub?

Or I’m reading it wrong...I can learn something new here either way...

That’s why I’m here lol. Is that 1”/25.4mm measurement from the hub? Seems like the hub would be a little further out then that.


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That’s why I’m here lol. Is that 1”/25.4mm measurement from the hub? Seems like the hub would be a little further out then that.


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Seems we have the same interpretation and confusion lol. I’ll wait for experts and learn before I further stuff my foot in my mouth.

I even went to Wilwood site, ended up at the same part number and graph. Initially I thought Of possibility that it’s not even the right caliper/graph for the Z.
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Seems we have the same interpretation and confusion lol. I’ll wait for experts and learn before I further stuff my foot in my mouth.

I even went to Wilwood site, ended up at the same part number and graph. Initially I thought Of possibility that it’s not even the right caliper/graph for the Z.

So my cousin (does suspension and chassis work for a race team) txt me back and said that apparently the wilwood is smaller in every way and will fit under more wheels then the bono for sure. I’m going to get him to explain the drawing to me this weekend lol. I’ll try to reiterate it in layman’s terms end of the week lol


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Wait....

The CZP diagram seems right, the bono front caliper extending 47.5mm past rotor hub (I measured it at just under 2 in)

The Wilwood graph is showing caliper only extends 1 inch/25.4mm past the rotor hub?

Or I’m reading it wrong...I can learn something new here either way...
Their diagram looks pretty straight forward to me and yea that would be them saying it only sticks out past 1”. Must be some very thin pads in those calipers then, also gonna look a little weird with the calipers tucked so far inboard.

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From what u can see the measurements is too outside corners of the calipers. So just the pure blockyness of the Bono, adds at least 20mm compared to all the sleek, small lightweight aftermarket bbk. Can see from the photo how smaller/tighter package the wilwood is.


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If you are trying to figure out clearances, most kits will have templates you can print out to compare against your wheel.
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If you are trying to figure out clearances, most kits will have templates you can print out to compare against your wheel.

Don’t have either yet and brakes are coming after wheels, so I want to make sure the brakes fit the wheels. From what I’ve found they should fit no problem. Finding/getting companies to give up a 2d cad drawing/ sectional drawing seems to not be a thing.


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