Coil overs or nismo struts
 

I wanted to improve handling on my roadster. It’s my weekend fun and I like to
Drive some really twisty roads in south jersey .
I was looking at the nismo struts but would they improve my cars ride or are they
Useless. I was also looking at coil overs but is there a point of installing coil overs if I have no intention of lowering the vehicle.
Lowering is not an option
Thxs

Pretty much all coil over kits lower your car somewhat. A Hotchkiss front sway bar will be the simplest improvement to handling in corners. South Jersey, twisty roads, really?

[QUOTE=2011 Nismo#91;3961817]Pretty much all coil over kits lower your car somewhat. A Hotchkiss front sway bar will be the simplest improvement to handling in corners. South Jersey, twisty roads, really?[/QUOTE


I have the nismo front and rear sway bars
So no struts or coil overs correct

I know it sounds crazy but going from freehold area to Middletown/red bank
Area crossing holmdel and Lincroft provides an enjoyable ride or going down to the Camden area from long branch with jumping on the turnpike and let’s not forget going to the wineries.
Its the reason I drive this car

why does it seem like there has been an increase in new Z owners that

"want to have fun" but "no plans to lower the car"

what we are doing here? it's a fuckin sports car. don't be a wuss

True to form. :rofl2:

No ones a wuss and no need for negativity. It’s a roadster and I have trouble getting in my driveway as it is. I had my share of low riders and I’m not a fan
Anymore. Lowering the car cause more problems and I ain’t in the mood for problems anymore sorry been there done that

it's 2020

technology exists that makes drive way complaints moot

you can't tell me you bought a ******* 2 seat roadster because it was convenient and comfortable

you also can't be naive enough to think you're going to make the car handle better without ACTUALLY modifying the suspension, right?

if you wanted an awesome handling car that didn't need any modifications, and also does daily driver ****, you bought the wrong car buddy. the Z is a starting point, not an endpoint. Not for folks scared of a driveway

Have you considered Airride? can confirm.. life on air is sweet.

I’m not sure why , in everyone eyes I’m supposed to lower my car
I’m comfortable with my car the way it is. I bought the z cause I’m a Nissan
Guy. I owned
280zx current
2012 maxima
2013, 2015, 2018 pathfinder
2020 armada current
G37 coupe awd
Q50 awd
Qx60
2018 rogue current
Pictures anytime at request (my q50 was sweet)
I bought this car to mod without repercussions
I installed Kenwood nav unit with focal speakers
Stillen cold intake
Oil cooler
Nismo exhaust
Nismo front and rear sway bars
Purchased nismo diff and
Z1 400 hp package
Will follow with a nice tune

Nice pair of rims and some nice big brakes to follow

So I need to know that this princess can handle after
This added power
I bought this car to drive. I lowered my g37 and q50 and hated not only
Getting into the driveway but having issues going to car washes, getting work done on a lift, the lust goes on for me lowering the car is a hassle
You guys do what you please. To each it’s own

So if anyone has ideas on how to improve handling with lowering than I’m all ears
Thank you

What do you not like about your current handling? Truthfully, “better” handling means different thing to different people.

I like the handling but concerned with the increase
In hp I might need to beef up the suspension. The nismo diff in general going to
A higher ratio with the stock suspension.
I read in this forum with a stiffer suspension the car will launch better and come
Off the turns better

In your driving condition, I would think Hotchkis front bar (as Nismo#91 mentioned) , a real LSD (since you mentioned power on corner exit), brake pad+fluid upgrade give the best immediate bang for bucks.

Of course, if you are real serious about pushing your car the limit on those twisty roads, then stock alignment won’t suffice, then lead to needing adjustable control arms, yadiyada etc.

Ditch the Nismo sway bars and get a Hotchkis front bar. The Nismo coilovers are over dampened for the springs. A good set of coilovers like the Forture 500 and the correct springs will do wonders. Change the upper front control arms so that you can adjust the camber and caster. The SPL arms are the only way to go. As you don't have to remove the arms to make adjustments. Plus they hold the adjustment too.

Get your Z aligned with these spec's.
Front camber -2, caster +6, toe 1/16" in.
Rear camber -1.75, toe 1/16" in.
This will give you a good handling Z without eating up the tires.

Brakes. The 'bono's are a good caliper. Just need good pads, stainless lines and good brake fluid. Most use the Motul 600. I use Castol SRF fluid. It's $$$

You got the Z1 400HP package. To get the most out of it. You have to ditch the Nismo exhaust too. High flow cats, test pipes or LTH's are the way to go. Otherwise, you got a cork in the exhaust.

Thank you
This is good information

Thxs for the advice
I already purchased the nismo diff . Is it really not a good choice I thought it
Was the easiest plug and play option.
Also does the hotchkis bar really make that much of a difference I just bought the nismo bar
Thxs

Did you get an OEM Nismo diff? If you did, the VLSD isn't very good in it. After they get hot, or get some mileage on them. They don't function well. They open up like an open diff. A maintenance free LSD is the Wavetrac. If you want to spend a little more, Get the OS Giken LSD. It's among the best.

Thxs for the advice
Adjustable arms are in the plans but not immediately

Are you saying the z1 package won’t be has effective with the nismo cats.
Cause if that’s the case I won’t install until I find a better suited cat back

Yes I bought a nismo diff from a junkyard from a nismo 7at with 12k on it.
The diff looks great and it came with a 1 year warranty

Instead of bitching about drive ways, get coilovers with a cup kit
Then you don’t have to look like a bum

For most NA power, stock suspension is sufficient, I tracked my car on stock suspension for sometime and didn't have any issues putting down my power (boltons and tune), I had only OS LSD, adjustable arms and good rubber.

Nismo diff is the same as sport, no difference, I wouldn't say it is bad, but not good as well, getting helical lsd like quaife or wavetrac or clutch type like OS or Cusco is a better choice if you are paying the money.

Nismo shocks vs Coilovers, I will go 100% with coilovers, you get the adjustability for height and compression.

Wtf is that about, share ur remarks elsewhere

i am giving you a solution to your problem
and expanding your limited world view, apparently

Everyone will say what a terrible idea but I bought a set of Nismo s tune shocks and springs new for my sport with whiteline sways front and back a few weeks ago and now the feeling of driving a boat has gone away it's firm enough for me and they only lowered me about 10mm, yeah I know you can buy better but there not as bad as what a lot of people say

Just add him to your ignore list, I do it from time to time. :rolleyes: No one uses air ride suspensions for performance.

Do as Rusty says for the Diff, that Nismo one won't make you happy.

Nismo cats are the same as the sport and base models. The Nismo cat back exhaust flows a bit better then the sport/base. And most aftermarket exhausts will flow better then the Nismo one. The Z1 400Bhp package replaces the cats but needs a good flowing cat back to as others have said get the most out of it.

This dude is worried about drive ways- do you really think performance is that big a goal? He’s a casual driver

And if he wants performance, a CUP KIT on coilovers also solves his problems
Instead of bitching about feelings listen to what I say

It doesn’t matter what you say, cause it comes with negativity.
I am a casual driver because this is my weekend car. I don’t use my roadster
Everyday I have another car for that. I do know that the z is designed with upgrading in mind so this is why I ask question on this site. I do appreciate
All the good support and suggestions. On the other hand it is my car so
If I choose not to lower than it shouldn’t be frowned upon.

Enjoy living in your fantasy world where you drop thousands of dollars and still have a fuckin convertible on stock suspension

But folks were nice to you so it’s a good idea

I decided to purchase nismo shocks and struts. They were really affordable
And also won’t change my warranty. I’ve driven the nismo 370z and it was
Good for me. Thank you everyone for the great info I learned a lot.