Excessive front tire wear

Triggy · 06-20-2020, 02:45 AM

Hey
i got my car aligned a few months ago, relatively weak toe and caster with 5* negative camber. I am now two sets of front tires down with wear on the inside side wall, which ive never seen on "high" camber alignements. I dot quite a lot of drift, i was wondering if front tire wear like this is common due to a weird geometry thing our cars could have under load?

Rusty · 06-20-2020, 01:22 PM

If you are running camber at -5. YES you will have tire wear on the inside. The outside edge isn't even on the ground. If your toe is off. It will wear even faster. Most don't go past -3 on camber. Do you have adjustable upper control arms?

JARblue · 06-20-2020, 01:29 PM

lol -5 degrees camber and you're complaining about tire wear?

with that shìt

OptionZero · 06-20-2020, 02:05 PM

not only that, but he's driving the car at drift events

so

high camber + hard driving . . . why surprise at uneven and high wear?

POS VETT · 06-20-2020, 11:48 PM

Damn, -5° camber. I run only -3° on my Z06 when running soft compound slicks. Caster is, however, set at +8°. Is there a reason why initial camber was that low? I'd rather run a higher number (probably around -2°) for camber and much higher positive caster (over +7°).

OptionZero · 06-21-2020, 12:22 AM

for wheel fitment

found this pic of his car from another thread:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triggy

Cleaned her up a few days ago, had to grab a shot

CE09E6F0-C570-4923-838F-1D813765EEFC by Ben Lavoie, on Flickr

Triggy · 06-21-2020, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JARblue

lol -5 degrees camber and you're complaining about tire wear?

with that shìt

I get what you’re saying but 1000miles on a set of tires isn’t “normal” even with higher camber.

Here are my specs:
Camber 5*
Caster 3.5*
Toe 10 in

BGTV8 · 06-21-2020, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triggy

I get what you’re saying but 1000miles on a set of tires isn’t “normal” even with higher camber.

Here are my specs:
Camber 5*
Caster 3.5*
Toe 10 in

Actually - with that much camber, I am blown-away that you even get 1000 miles out of your tyres

The toe setting also looks dodgy. 10 "what" in ..... 10 degrees, 0.10 inch, 10mm ........... is that total toe-in or each side.

Triggy · 06-21-2020, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BGTV8

Actually - with that much camber, I am blown-away that you even get 1000 miles out of your tyres

The toe setting also looks dodgy. 10 "what" in ..... 10 degrees, 0.10 inch, 10mm ........... is that total toe-in or each side.

10* toe each side

OptionZero · 06-21-2020, 11:16 AM

Are you saying 10 DEGREES?

I think we found the problem
Look in the drivers seat

JARblue · 06-21-2020, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triggy

I get what you’re saying but 1000miles on a set of tires isn’t “normal” even with higher camber.

Here are my specs:
Camber 5*
Caster 3.5*
Toe 10 in

Rusty · 06-21-2020, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OptionZero

Are you saying 10 DEGREES?

I think we found the problem
Look in the drivers seat

He is his own worst enemy.

Rusty · 06-21-2020, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Triggy

I get what you’re saying but 1000miles on a set of tires isn’t “normal” even with higher camber.

Here are my specs:
Camber 5*
Caster 3.5*
Toe 10 in

With your spec's. 1000 miles IS normal.

Triggy · 06-22-2020, 02:01 AM

Thanks for the good input boys, was worth my time ��

OptionZero · 06-22-2020, 01:46 PM

dont get mad at us

you want us to give you a diagnosis that DOESN'T acknowledge the obvious problem?

go to a proper alignment shop that deals with race cars, including drift cars, and see if they spot anything beyond the glaring issues of your camber and insane toe specs

you also didn't give us your tire compound, which is also a factor

tire wear is always gonna come down to:
- camber
- toe
- compound
- driver

everything you gave us is that your camber is high, your toe is NUTS, and your driving is hard.

wtf u expect us to say? we aren't looking under your car, we aren't gonna point out a magical gremlin thats eating your tires at night

06-20-2020, 02:45 AM	#1 (permalink)
Triggy Base Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 22 Drives: 2019 370Z M6 Sport Rep Power: 7	Excessive front tire wear Hey i got my car aligned a few months ago, relatively weak toe and caster with 5* negative camber. I am now two sets of front tires down with wear on the inside side wall, which ive never seen on "high" camber alignements. I dot quite a lot of drift, i was wondering if front tire wear like this is common due to a weird geometry thing our cars could have under load? __________________ IG @trigger.tm Last edited by Triggy; 06-20-2020 at 02:49 AM.

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Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,184 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684437	If you are running camber at -5. YES you will have tire wear on the inside. The outside edge isn't even on the ground. If your toe is off. It will wear even faster. Most don't go past -3 on camber. Do you have adjustable upper control arms? JARblue likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

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JARblue A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Austin, TX Age: 43 Posts: 36,450 Drives: 11 Z34, 98 E36 M3 Rep Power: 2684440	lol -5 degrees camber and you're complaining about tire wear? with that shìt Chuck33079, Rusty, Memphis370Z and 1 others like this. __________________ 2011 370Z 6MT Sport Gun Metallic \| ARC \| CJM \| Ecutek \| FI \| Fujimura \| R2C \| SPL \| Stillen \| TWM \| Z1 \| ZSpeed \|

06-20-2020, 02:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,225 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214100	not only that, but he's driving the car at drift events so high camber + hard driving . . . why surprise at uneven and high wear? JARblue, Rusty and Memphis370Z like this. __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

06-21-2020, 11:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,225 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214100	Are you saying 10 DEGREES? I think we found the problem Look in the drivers seat JARblue, Rusty and KapitalZ like this. __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

06-20-2020, 11:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
POS VETT Track Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Columbus OH Posts: 612 Drives: Z34\|C4LT4\|C6Z06\|V25 Rep Power: 3366	Damn, -5° camber. I run only -3° on my Z06 when running soft compound slicks. Caster is, however, set at +8°. Is there a reason why initial camber was that low? I'd rather run a higher number (probably around -2°) for camber and much higher positive caster (over +7°).

06-22-2020, 02:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
Triggy Base Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 22 Drives: 2019 370Z M6 Sport Rep Power: 7	Thanks for the good input boys, was worth my time �� __________________ IG @trigger.tm

06-22-2020, 01:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
OptionZero A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sacramento Posts: 3,225 Drives: 15 370Z Nismo 6MT Rep Power: 214100	dont get mad at us you want us to give you a diagnosis that DOESN'T acknowledge the obvious problem? go to a proper alignment shop that deals with race cars, including drift cars, and see if they spot anything beyond the glaring issues of your camber and insane toe specs you also didn't give us your tire compound, which is also a factor tire wear is always gonna come down to: - camber - toe - compound - driver everything you gave us is that your camber is high, your toe is NUTS, and your driving is hard. wtf u expect us to say? we aren't looking under your car, we aren't gonna point out a magical gremlin thats eating your tires at night JARblue, Rusty, bpchaos and 1 others like this. __________________ OptionZero Build Thread

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