What will it take to get Akebono up to par

LiquidZ · 01-16-2010, 01:39 PM

Pads, fluid, lines, and proper braking techniques on the track.

We have very good brakes from the factory. Our brakes are capable of stopping our car
from 60 mph in 108'ish feet. But all factory brakes have inherent weaknesses. In my opinion, do the above four and you should be set.

corner3garage · 01-16-2010, 01:43 PM

Pads, Fluid and if you like Ducting.

Mike · 01-16-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RCZ

HP+ is a hardcore street pad, not a race pad. From what I understood, he didnt want race pads, thats why I recommended a street pad.

still, I think I would go with carbotech bobcat's instead for a street pad with light track use. My buddy uses them on his G37 without issues.

Zat_Zuma · 01-17-2010, 01:50 PM

I had the HP+ on my modified G35 and yes they did squeal alot on slow braking, for example, when stopping for a light. My solution was to coast to the light and brake with medium pressure. This provided minimum squeal and usually scared the passengers from waiting to brake so long.

As for brake dust ...... it's the price for high performance brake pads. Yes there was a extreme amount of dust! I plan upgrading the brake lines, brake fluid and HP+ brake pads. When the one piece stock rotors are done and beyond salvage, I'll replace them with a good 2-piece rotors.

I autocross at least twice a month, in the summer, and can't beat the HP+ for all around street/autocross brake pad performance. For the money, the average street/autocross user will be impressed, except for the brake dust.

If I was to do high speed track racing, my recommendations would be different and probably suggest a different pad and BBk kit. More than likely, would have a race and street pad set and swap them out before each track day.

ChrisSlicks · 01-17-2010, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Zat_Zuma

I autocross at least twice a month, in the summer, and can't beat the HP+ for all around street/autocross brake pad performance. For the money, the average street/autocross user will be impressed, except for the brake dust.

Interesting. I tried them for auto-x but the grabby nature cause it to upset the dynamic brake control system if you jabbed the brake pedal.

htt760 · 02-16-2010, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeyD

Great info guys. Thanks so much.

RCZ I understand the benefits of the HP+ over HPS, but do you mind telling me why I'll hate you? What is the real-world downside? And BTW I took your advice and mounted all 4 RE-11s instead of just the rear two.

A BBK is probably in my (distant) future. I'm leaning towards AP Racing or the Brembo Caliper-only upgrade. IMHO the ideal setup would allow me to run AP Racing up front and swith the 4pot Akebono caliper from the front to the rear. The swap should just be a matter of producing the right bracket just like all the BBKs use.

I agree... maybe down the line that would be nice to add a bracket so we can reuse our 4 pot fronts for the rears... How difficult is the braket going to be to make?

AP - Chris_B · 02-23-2010, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by htt760

I agree... maybe down the line that would be nice to add a bracket so we can reuse our 4 pot fronts for the rears... How difficult is the braket going to be to make?

Sorry, but even if you could physically mount the front caliper on the rear (and deal with the difference in rotor thickness), the piston sizing would knock the brake system WAY out of balance. And the pedal would get very soft without a larger master cylinder. It's a big can of worms with no possible outcome that would make it worth the time/money/effort.

Chris

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