Coilovers: any that offer COMFORT+HANDLING
 

I would like to make my Z more comfortable to drive but yet retain or increase good handling performance. Is this possible, or do I have to sacrifice one for the other?

Are there any coilover or spring+shock sets that can offer a highly comfortable drive and still have good handling?

Atm, my Z does not have many suspension mods yet it feels pretty harsh to me.

Currently installed:
Eibach lowering springs
Z1 motor and trans Urethane mounts
Whiteline diff bushing kit
Spc fromt camber kit
Eibach rear camber kit

I did also have Eibach sway bar kit plus Z1 subframbr bushing collar kit, but my workshop removed them back to factory because they made the car so stiff, that it felt like I was driving into a rock when went over every bump or hump on the road, and it Tri-podded every where lol

Its still pretty harsh atm and want to know how I can comfy her up a bit more. Thanks for any input.

comfort is relative

but you should read any of the billions of other coilover threads for people that want to make their sports car comfortable AND handle like an F1 car

bottom line:
good valving can make even stiff springs "relatively" comfortable, i.e. no bouncing uncontrollably



at this point, though, you're complaining about eibach springs being too harsh

so i would recommend you buy a lexus and leave it stock

you bought an automatic sports car, slapped on lowering springs, and now you're complaining about the ride harshness

you really need a different car

try this

https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/...cab0?width=650

Mate I love my car!

Otherwise I wouldn't go through hell getting her the way I want it!
Peace! ;)

When tuning suspension, it is better to think about it as what is the car doing now, and what would I like it to do better. This goes for both performance and comfort. The more specific the issue the better.

I found the oem shocks to be under-damped. I'm sure that with lowering springs they would have been even worse. If I were in your spot I would look into aftermarket shock options before dropping money on coilovers.

Yea I was thinking of the koni yellows.

But Ill have to research into weather that will make my feel better or worse for the performance increase it will give me.

Comfort and handling is at opposite ends. You have to decided on how much comfort you can live without for handling. And how much handling you can live without for comfort. Stock is closer to the handling end already. A good set of coilovers valved for the correct springs is the way to go. BUT selecting the springs and valving isn't that easy.

I'll use this as an example. Some love the Koni shocks and Swift springs combo. Others will say that they are just ok. No two people are alike in their taste.

Then on top of that, to fully test and adjust the shocks can be, at the very least, tedious.

I dream buying a set of 4 ways, pick some random spring rates, let my two toddlers play with the low/high comp/rebound knobs, then play a game called "guess how it rides". :rofl2:

I will use this opportunity and ask about magnetic suspensions: Can we get something like BMW and Audi does with their suspensions(Adaptive suspension I think it's called)? A magnetic fluid on dampers that under certain current changes viscosity and therefore handling? Has anyone done some research on this?

When is the last time you hit the Power Ball?

Talk about getting lost in a maze. :rofl2:

would EDFC be the way to go, or not worht the trouble?

I was leaning towards MCA Street Ultimate. Built here in Australia so I can get them for $2750 AUD

Hit up BGTV8 for things Assie. He would know.

So....what exactly is the problem and expectation?

Pretend you are talking to a shock builder, or talking to your pit crew, describe the situation where you feel the ride is "harsh", and how the current setup lacks in performance.

I wouldn't say it lacks in performance, although I cannot comment entirely on that aspect as I have never tracked the car yet, only some hill runs so far, although I wouldn't mind tracking the car in the near future.

So performance side of things is OK, it is more the comfort side of things that I would hope to improve on without sacrificing too much performance if possible. Even though we don't have the best roads here, every bump or hill run I do, I constantly feel like I have driven into a rock because that's how harsh the ride feels to me.

Maybe my car is just too stiff atm, I still tri-pod over driveways etc and I don't even have many suspension mods currently installed.

Springs play a big roll in comfort, leave them (and the shock) and focused on everything else.

People need to stop getting lowering springs without getting better dampers. I have some Koni Yellows that are basically brand new that you can tune to soft for comfort and hard for sport if you want and won't break the bank unlike coilovers. Plus they are designed to last with lower springs ESPECIALLY the Eibachs that you have. Those stock dampers are a ticking time bomb. On the softest setting they are actually more comfortable than stock (but with your springs I do not know if your experience will be the same since mine are paired with the stock springs).

I have MCA Reds, they are a great coilovers and it is comfy in street, specially on soft setting. Having them as local to you is a plus.

Yea there is a MCA dealer close to me, who suggested the MCA street essentials for me.

I understand that will give me the best comfort while providing performance. But I want to know can any of the other MCA like the Street Ultimate will offer better performance but yet can be still tuned with custom valving for good comfort?

I have not tried them so I can’t say how they really are but you may look at the RSR coil overs. They’re same spring rate as OEM so that should not be too much different. From there maybe Fortune 500 or BC BR since both are 10k/8k you’ll get a little firmer front and same as stock rear. Of course calving has a major effect but those are the closest to oem spring rate coil overs that I know of.

Annex Suspension Coilovers is what your looking for. Just installed them AND THEY ARE MORE COMFORTABLE THAN STOCK and I didn't even get the Swift spring upgrade. I highly recommend these to beginners to intermediate guys that are either getting their first coilovers or are getting new ones. They are quiet, they will break your neck at the 12k front 8k rear spring rate spec that I got. https://annexsuspension.com/collecti...13891514728511

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:iagree: I have the same ones. Both great ride comfort and performance.

Thanks for the reply guys. I went with Street Ultimate from MCA, because they are loca. But when I was ordering them from a website, I never got any options to choose for anything customization. I asked the supplier was there anything I was suppose to chose for customizing, he replied No because MCA already have the 370Z profiles setup and they can do everything on their end.

I said OK.

Kapitalz, so how did you end up choosing your gold springs? I did not even get an option for that.

So I don’t know quite as much about suspension on cars as others here, but I’d say you can have either performance or comfort; not both. When my 370 was stock, it was more on the comfort side. Though performance wise I’d say it was decent. I now have ARK coilovers which made it a lot more stiff. I can feel pretty much every bump I hit, but it’s not that bad. The only time it really feels stuff is if I hit a decent size bump or hole in the road. Handling and performance wise it’s great, my front end won’t dip at all if I slam on the brakes and it stays flat when I turn.

Though I’ll say this too, like someone mentioned in the thread; you could go for a Lexus. I’ve driven a Lexus RC and it was nice, but overpriced. If you have the extra money, you could get a new RC with all wheel drive and drop a supercharger in it. You’ll have some speed, performance and comfort. But it’ll probably run you a good $80K plus total.


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People also need to stop saying this because YOU CAN. My Annex coilovers even though they are way more aggressive than stock at 14k front and 10k rear for the spring rate, it's more comfortable than stock and I was looking for more performance and came to terms that I'll have to sacrifice comfort. Let's just say I was pleasantly surprised to not have my teeth fall out when going over the same rough roads I use to brace for back when I had my stock suspension. It's the same with the KW coilovers or the Powertrix coilovers (with the swift spring upgrade). Now I'm going to upgrade my seat because the stock seats are bad for your back and I need a seat to hold my head in place because my neck hurts from the higher cornering speeds now lol

Sounds like you're out of shape. :tup:

Idk if it's from height but I'm 6'3" 185, I'm built like a twig lol. I try to properly make the bottom front of the seat be at the highest point, push my bottom as far back into the seat as possible and push my head back into the headrest with both hands on the wheel with my wrists being able to go over the steering wheel. My lower back still starts to hurt after an hour or two of driving and I've never had this problem when I had my Z33 or M3. I do have a desk job which is why I do squats and hypertensions so I don't end up hobbling around like quasimodo like most people with desk jobs lol.

I even drove my Z33 cross country from Maine to San Diego. I think the driver seat design of the Z34 is just not that good.

I think Nissan designed the seat terribly on purpose because they know drivers wouldn't be in the car too long because they'll have to keep pulling over to have the car cool down from the poor oil temperature management lol.

I have a set of bc coilovers with the swift spring upgrade and I really like the ride quality along with the performance. Prolly one of the best coilovers I have ever owned.

Well, I must say the MCA Grey Street Ultimates I got are bloody stiff as hell.

I feel every single bump and crevis in the road. Wasn't the best choice as now realise I do prefer the comfort. But hey this was the first coilover I ever bought.

I don’t see any such product on the MCA website
https://mcasuspension.com/product-ca...e/nissan/370z/

What spring rate did you get and did you tell them what you were looking for?

These appear to be fully rebuildable locally to you so it shouldn’t be too hard to customize your setup

And maybe you should ride in other cars with other setups to see what you prefer

And have someone else drive your car to weigh in

You may be better off with a Lexus, given your posting history

I am running stock blown struts with Eibach springs and the car rides like a Cadillac. Look for somebody selling 100k mile struts.
Any new strut will make the car ride harsher than your set up now.

Old blown out struts and shocks are super floaty.

What the actual ****

I think it was sarcasm. At least I hope it was. :rofl2:

OP thought ******* eibachs were too harsh so I dunno what the **** we doin here

Sell the Z

I would suggest to go for adjustable system so you can adjust it based on your taste, or seasons, if you have track you will compromise the comfort, and for DD and after the track season you can adjust it to compromise the stiffness. Or you can adjust it in between.

I recommend BC racing.

Thanks,
NASM

OP has apparently decided to sell his Z and get a Supra :twocents: