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Originally Posted by JARblue A big variable is the spring rates you choose... if you choose stiff ones for track use they aren't going to be very nice on the

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Old 04-26-2019, 03:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A big variable is the spring rates you choose... if you choose stiff ones for track use they aren't going to be very nice on the street. Softer ones for the street may not be appropriate for your track use. You can't have it both ways unless you want to swap out parts.

It is more about valving rather than spring rates, I didn't beleive that until recently when I got custom coilovers with 21kg/7kg. The ride in street with soft setting is comfortable, but when I turn it to stiff setting, it is very harsh.
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Sometimes it seems like the folks that don't wanna spend any money or modify their car wind up spending more time and energy then folks that are willing to . . . . do stuff.
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Sometimes it seems like the folks that don't wanna spend any money or modify their car wind up spending more time and energy then folks that are willing to . . . . do stuff.
The only reason why I want coilovers is to counteract the diving the car does and the unstable feeling it has at higher speeds. I realize I can go with springs but I don't want my car any lower than it is or to wear out my dampers prematurely. I love how it handles now around corners, I just can't fine tune it any further to that sweet stop I want with just sway bars, tires and the koni dampers. What I have now is great for cornering, they don't have much of an effect on the stability or the diving. I set that limit because I'll be spending a lot of money in the power department. I'm convinced I don't need crazy expensive coilovers, just something that could ride ok (not perfect) that can correct that diving and stability without messing up what I've done with cornering grip.
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i agree with that ^^^

Everytime you add something to your suspension, you don't just have the install time/effort - you need an alignment

Ideally you should get coils, arms, and wheels all at once so you can dial in fitment together with one four wheel alignment (and fender rolling)

At worst, coils and arms together and an alignment at the height you want to drive at

Then wheels. Because when you have coils and all the arms, you can fit pretty much any wheel/tize you want. The Z has incredible space for stuffing wheel under the fenders

I'm gonna go up to a 285/30/20 in front when i get new tires
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The only thing that I have to report back on my fortunes is that I went through a touch-less car wash that blast the under carriage with soap water and they did not like that. Everything squeaked and groaned until I lubed all the bushings again. (the fortunes use a metallic upper mount and solid metal lowers.) Just a bit of honest feedback if you plan on driving the car everyday. I usually tell folks who dd to avoid metal or spherical bushings whenever possible for this reason.

No shame in taking your time. I signed up for this forum in 2013, didn't even buy a Z until 2015 and pretty much have been planning out my build from 2016. Doing the right thing takes time. You'll find the kit that fits your needs. Just keep reading and determine what will suit your needs the best.
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The only thing that I have to report back on my fortunes is that I went through a touch-less car wash that blast the under carriage with soap water and they did not like that. Everything squeaked and groaned until I lubed all the bushings again. (the fortunes use a metallic upper mount and solid metal lowers.) Just a bit of honest feedback if you plan on driving the car everyday. I usually tell folks who dd to avoid metal or spherical bushings whenever possible for this reason.

No shame in taking your time. I signed up for this forum in 2013, didn't even buy a Z until 2015 and pretty much have been planning out my build from 2016. Doing the right thing takes time. You'll find the kit that fits your needs. Just keep reading and determine what will suit your needs the best.
This right here is one reason I went powertrix street coilover. Firm poly upper and lower mounts for good reliable DD noise free yet good spring rates for track etc etc... been a good choice for me.
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I dunno, i’ve never met someone so in love with stock level handling

I thought you said the alignment fixed your “high speed” thing
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I went back and read your other thread

Are tou freakin out about event in which the car felt wierd in an emergency braking situation?

Alot of this seems all in your head
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Are tou freakin out about event in which the car felt wierd in an emergency braking situation?

Alot of this seems all in your head
That is fixed, when braking it doesn't dart into one direction at high speed but the diving is something that's always been there which I knew was never going to be fixed by an alingment because the alignment will only fixed the unstable braking. I think it's a natural tendency of the car. I could only adjust so much with what I have, it won't do squat for that stability. And yes, I did need my diaper changed after that event and it left a impression on me. You are right and it has a lot to do with that event because I never planned on getting coliovers before since I was ok with the stock suspension. Some people didn't like how numb the 350Z felt but at least it was stable, the aggressive driving I've done with my 350Z, I've never had it do something like that before at Lime Rock race track or on the street with crazy Massachusetts drivers and all I had were Michilen Pilot Super Sports with nothing else in the handling department.
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If you like the stock height and want stiffer springs why not just look into picking up a used set of 09-12 Nismo springs? I know they eventually softened them up somewhere between the 13-15 models but don't remember exactly which model year it was.
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If you like the stock height and want stiffer springs why not just look into picking up a used set of 09-12 Nismo springs? I know they eventually softened them up somewhere between the 13-15 models but don't remember exactly which model year it was.
I originally thought that but other people convinced me otherwise to stay away from springs. I just don't know if they'll be stiff enough to cure that dive or comfortable enough. Right now the coilovers that seem to be targeted at me are the HKS Hipermax IV GT because it has the performance and comfort without messing with my other handling upgrades supposedly or the HKS SP and the Fortune Auto 500 with Swifts. Those 3 actual meet all the requirements that I'm looking for performance, comfort and a little bit over my budget but I'm willing to dish out the extra cash just because I biased towards Japanese brands like HKS and I've read that the installation on all their coilovers are super easy and simple. but I have no idea how they feel because I haven't driven in any Z with them to know. My only examples to go off of are the BC DR coilovers and the KW V3.
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If you like the stock height and want stiffer springs why not just look into picking up a used set of 09-12 Nismo springs? I know they eventually softened them up somewhere between the 13-15 models but don't remember exactly which model year it was.
2015+ they softened the springs for better ride quality

Everything i've read the '09-14 Nismo was a damn shopping cart, terrible ride quality
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2015+ they softened the springs for better ride quality

Everything i've read the '09-14 Nismo was a damn shopping cart, terrible ride quality
The problem with the 09-14 Nismo suspension is the shocks have too much compression and not enough rebound in the damping. Making the springs fell even stiffer.
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Fortune auto will valve their stuff for whatever spring rate you want

but

i have never seen anyone make this big a deal about the 370Z's "dive"

i'm pretty sure its all in your head

it really seems like you're chasing a feeling, rather than improving your car. plus, the artificial limit that it has to be "comfortable" along the way, which is amusing as hell to me.

You buy a sports car and you complain about the performance "feeling" but you want it to be comfortable so you refuse to make optimal performance upgrades. I'll never understand these people

Buy a freakin' beater civic to bum around town in and pick up groceries or return library books. Drive the Z when you wanna go fast. Otherwise, expect compromises. You want something thats fast and comfortable? save up for a BMW?

of course

it's your car and your money. do whatever you want, so i dont know anything and i'm just being mean again i guess
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