Hotchkis v.s. Stillen Sway Bars?

Eagle

To quote Steven Doherty and BJ Zacharias from the Doran Racing Team which drove the 370z VERY competitively in the IMSA Continental Tire Sports Car Championship, "get the biggest FRONT sway bar you can find, even if it is the size of a sewage pipe".

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Jhill

Can't say how the eibach are but I almost went that way too. They are supposed to be a good setup. I will say the stillen are noticable over stock as I had stock and have only changed bars so no other influences in handling and even with just a middle/middle setting the balance is better and doesn't feel like the front rolls to the outside in a downhill off camber turn. Either way I think you'll be happy.

/Angelo350Z/

Yeah, I almost went with Stillen but ended up ordering Eibach from Kyle at IPP. I'm sure Stillen would've suited my needs, but Eibach was just at bit stiffer based on manufacturer's claims.

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B&W_Evader

Eibach here and very happy with their performance.

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Team_STILLEN

Have you guys looked at our buying guide. It provides good insight into what bars are ideal for certain driving styles and setups.

https://blog.stillen.com/2016/04/sti...ide-sway-bars/

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Jhill

Good read. One of the other reasons I went stillen was the soft setting in the rear wasn't too far off from Oem. With all the people running super stiff front bar and Oem rear I figured the stillen might be on to something by not going to the 100+ % increases in the rear. The eibach look like a good set too but I'm happy with the stillens I got.

/Angelo350Z/

Aside from their specs, Eibach and Stillen appealed to me simply because they were red .

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Wonka2581

I don't get it... Why are people saying Hotchkis are to stiff for the street???? Can someone please explain this to me??

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Eagle

I don't understand either. I daily drive my z34 with a hotchkis upfront and it hasn't made my ride perceivably worse. Its just improved the handling

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Wonka2581

Hmmm... See that's my problem.. I cant figure it out. It seems like the stiffer the better.. So in hind sight It seems like the logical answer would be to go with the Hotchkis bars..

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Eagle

It's hard I know...lol Lots of "stiff" competition to choose from. See what I did there?

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Jhill

I think it has to do more with matching items to compliment each other. Also sway bars do limit how independent the suspension is and in the example given by stillen hitting a bump mid turn (imperfect streets) could possibly cause a dangerous situation. Also the stiffer bars are going to put more load on the tires and prevent camber change so you need a more static neg camber and a soft tire compound to take advantage of the super stiff bar. If you have a softer bar it will have more roll but allow the wheel to travel and gain negative camber (a good thing) so now you don't need to start as staticly neg for the street saving you tires. In a sense when turning you are trying to absorb that energy and make it shift direction so your parts should match and compliment each other. If stiffest is always better than let's take the extreme, let's think how a go kart would handle (flattest turning possible, no movement there) and slap hard compound tires on there and watch it slide right off the track like a bar of soap.

Just my thoughts though.

Spooler

It depends what you want to do and how you want to set your car up. I prefer a stiffer sway-bar but I like to run the dampers/springs a little softer. It is trial and error to your tastes of what you like.

Rusty

With my set up. Over squared. LOL. Hotchkis front bar and Hotchkis rear bar set on soft. With the 345's on the rear. I need the Hotchkis bar. I track and DD my Nismo. The car stays flat. Alignment setting come into play also. On the front. Camber is -2, Caster is +7, Toe is a hair in. The rear Camber is -1.75, Toe is a hair in. Great turn in, stays mid turn, Sometimes have trouble getting out of the turn because of my LSD diff got hot and giving me fits. The car gets twitchy at speed. Suits me perect.

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Team_STILLEN

Ride quality/comfort is subjective. I personally can't stand the ride in a Lotus Exige for the street, but my buddy loves it and thinks it is plenty comfortable. The stiffer bars reduce roll more, but that does not always mean your limits are inherently increased.

Sounds like your suspension is properly set up for the most part. Maybe you just need a Diff cooler now?

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