bump from the dead, but why aren't eibach on this thread?? I would take eibach sways over both.

I got the stillens!

I had Hotchkis before but they felt way to stiff for a daily driver. I switched over to Stillen and been very happy with them so far. Great bang for the buck :)

just do the front stillens or kangaroo bar.

I have only had the Hotchkis bars and read from othersway too stiff for DD. :icon14: This is confusing as I never feel this, except for one left where the road goes down and meets a newly paved section. This maneuver shakes me pretty well. Is this the coil overs or sways? Either way it is bearable.

ha? :confused:

This thread was helpful to me. Thanks guys

sarcasm not needed. :mad:

;)

I have lots of Stillen products on my car but went with the Hotchkis for the track but they don't seem to stiff for the street to me.

Bringing this thread back from the grave :tiphat:.

I live in Germany and would like to return to the Nurburgring with a very capable car. I used to take my 350Z on the Ring with Eibach Pro Kit springs, OEM shocks, Nismo sways, and 255/285 RE-11 tires, and though it performed well, the suspension simply wasn't suited for that track. My 370Z is currently on KW V1 coilovers, wider 265/305 RE-11s, but with the OEM sway bars. Which brand would you suggest for a high-speed track with sweeping corners and drastic elevation changes, Stillen or Hotchkis? I'm sure both would be an improvement from stock.

I personally after searching a bunch went with stillen. My reasoning was the wide range of adjustment and I daily drive my car too. Sometimes stiffer isn't better. If on slippery surface wet and the car pushes the front you need to soften the front up to get as much front grip as you can. With the hotchkiss it sound extremely stiff and you have no adjustment. So now your only option is to stiffen the rear to try and overpower the front but now you drive like a bar of soap with zero compliance. With the stillen you have 5 settings in the front and 3 in the rear to tailor balance and grip for conditions. I would rather have my bars have the option to be tailored to whatever spring/damper rates I am using or going to use rather than tailor my spring and damper rates around my front bar.

In my believe sway bars should be used along with damper settings to achieve a balance for front to rear handling and spring rates should be used to resist roll.

Most of the track rats here use the Hotchkis bar.

It seems Hotchkis sways would be ideal for a conventional track, one that is mainly flat with minimal elevation changes. However, the Nurburgring is a different beast. It's really no different than a regular European country road. I'll do some more reading, but it seems Stillen sway bars would be ideal for my application.

You won't find much specific feedback for 1 track. There are many people who track at many locations including those with elevation changes and their consensus is, Hotchkiss front stiffest setting, no bar or stock on the rear.

That seems to be the consensus, you're right. After further reading, I think I'll stick with Eibach sways. Stillen doesn't seem to be too much of an improvement over stock. Hotckhis, on the other hand, may prove to be too stiff for long drives through country roads.