Question about brake grease and cleaning

Swindler · 06-14-2018, 06:55 PM

Hey guys I am in the middle of re greasing the back of brake pads and hardware since I have been having some squeaking going on. It’s on my g37S coupe, same calipers as the Z sport. Anyway my first question is the brake grease I got here. Will this be ok to use on the shims and back of the pads along with the edges and a bit on that outer spring plate? Permatex ultra brake parts lube synthetic.

I was afraid I got put too much on the shims on one side so I re did it. Will that stuff hurt the rubber piston boots? I tried to research but couldn’t find much specifically on the piston boots being affected.

Also I was wondering is there a good way to try to clean the edge of the piston that contacts the brake pad? And also the boot? They look pretty dirty but I am not sure if I should touch it. I just scrubbed around it.
Thank you!!

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wanker · 06-15-2018, 12:23 AM

Brake grease is just a high heat tolerant grease. It's fine to coat the back of brake pads, however, I prefer anti-squeal (it's essentially just liquid rubber) it works better.

Buy spray brake cleaner, it works great to clean brake parts including the pistons.

Swindler · 06-15-2018, 01:54 AM

Awesome thanks! I took for a test drive and sounds like there is a low grinding sound or something. Not really loud but I can feel and hear it. But I’m too lazy to take my wheels back off tonight. everything looks good from the outside. I’ll have to check it out on Saturday lol

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Rusty · 06-15-2018, 03:02 AM

To clean around the boots and pistons. Use a nylon tooth brush and brake cleaner. You only need a thin layer of grease on the skims. Too much causes a mess and catches dirt.

If you use the anti-squeal as mention. Don't put it on too thick. It will cause other problems with brake pedal feel.

jchammond · 06-15-2018, 07:34 AM

Also; that grease should be ok for caliper slide pins- but read carefully,,,as some will cause the rubber sleeve to swell & seize up.
Found this out the hard way,using some house formula from work.
As long as it’s compatible w/rubber,,,you’ll be ok (more like a high heat dialectical grease)
Also as above mentioned-Antiseize compound would work & stay better,,,but I only use it on the backside of rear parking brake shoes & wheel studs,,,not on the actual disc brake pad ears,,,as they will slide on the stainless snap in hardware.....as Rusty mentioned-too much can cause problems.

jchammond · 06-15-2018, 07:39 AM

http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1529062703

jchammond · 06-15-2018, 07:53 AM

The purple stuff seized up my rubber sleeves & caused sticking,,,so I got Napa’s Sli-Glide & worked great!http://www.the370z.com/attachment.ph...1&d=1529063533

Hotrodz · 06-15-2018, 10:03 AM

I use the purple stuff with no problems. You got to quit sniffing it before applying it!

Rusty · 06-15-2018, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I use the purple stuff with no problems. You got to quit sniffing it before applying it!

That's what I use too. But only in small amounts.

wanker · 06-15-2018, 07:25 PM

Remember with the anti-squeal apply a thin coating and let it cure overnight. That should help reduce the risk of it fouling the piston.

Swindler · 06-15-2018, 08:24 PM

Thanks for all the advice I appreciate it!

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SouthArk370Z · 06-15-2018, 11:00 PM

I heard the reason brake grease is used on disc brakes is that drum brakes require it (where shoes rub against backing plate) so most mechanics already had it in their toolbox when discs came along. Something was needed to "glue" shims, brake grease does a good job, why not use it.

Not sure it's true, but it sounded good when I heard it.

Swindler · 06-16-2018, 05:26 PM

Oh god, guys.... I did the most idiotic thing ever. So I kept dropping my hair pin clip in there and having to take all the hardware and the inboard pad back out to keep retrieving it, in my frustration the last time I just found out I put the pad in backwardsand that’s the Grinding I heard on my test drive down the street. Anyway. My question is will it be ok still???

it seems like there isnt any damage to the rotor besides being greased up. But I am gonna take it off now to check it out and take some pics for you guys. If I need to replace do I need to replace all my pads and rotors on each wheel now if I need to replace my rotor and pad on my one wheel? The little latch on the shim is bent slightly so I may need to replace that at least if I can’t bend it back cuz it won’t stay in place.

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Spooler · 06-16-2018, 05:42 PM

It appears you didn't go hard enough to have excessive damage. Flip it around and see what happens after cleaning all of the grease off of the rotor.

Swindler · 06-16-2018, 05:43 PM

Thanks for the positive responseI am working on getting the caliper off now lol

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06-14-2018, 06:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Swindler Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Central CA Age: 35 Posts: 219 Drives: 2014 370Z PW Manual Rep Power: 12	Question about brake grease and cleaning Hey guys I am in the middle of re greasing the back of brake pads and hardware since I have been having some squeaking going on. It’s on my g37S coupe, same calipers as the Z sport. Anyway my first question is the brake grease I got here. Will this be ok to use on the shims and back of the pads along with the edges and a bit on that outer spring plate? Permatex ultra brake parts lube synthetic. I was afraid I got put too much on the shims on one side so I re did it. Will that stuff hurt the rubber piston boots? I tried to research but couldn’t find much specifically on the piston boots being affected. Also I was wondering is there a good way to try to clean the edge of the piston that contacts the brake pad? And also the boot? They look pretty dirty but I am not sure if I should touch it. I just scrubbed around it. Thank you!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

06-15-2018, 12:23 AM	#2 (permalink)
wanker Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 443 Drives: 2011 370Z S/T A7 Rep Power: 2901	Brake grease is just a high heat tolerant grease. It's fine to coat the back of brake pads, however, I prefer anti-squeal (it's essentially just liquid rubber) it works better. Buy spray brake cleaner, it works great to clean brake parts including the pistons. ZoomZ likes this.

06-15-2018, 03:02 AM	#4 (permalink)
Rusty Ronin Samurai - Assassin Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Fayettenam,Pennsyltucky Age: 68 Posts: 35,220 Drives: 2011 Nismo GM 6M Rep Power: 2684438	To clean around the boots and pistons. Use a nylon tooth brush and brake cleaner. You only need a thin layer of grease on the skims. Too much causes a mess and catches dirt. If you use the anti-squeal as mention. Don't put it on too thick. It will cause other problems with brake pedal feel. jchammond likes this. __________________ 浪人 - 殺し屋 "The Difficult Anytime, The Impossible By Appointment Only" http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...o-journal.html

06-15-2018, 07:34 AM	#5 (permalink)
jchammond A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: South Carolina Age: 58 Posts: 15,204 Drives: 13’ 370Z TS 7A/T Rep Power: 2684395	Also; that grease should be ok for caliper slide pins- but read carefully,,,as some will cause the rubber sleeve to swell & seize up. Found this out the hard way,using some house formula from work. As long as it’s compatible w/rubber,,,you’ll be ok (more like a high heat dialectical grease) Also as above mentioned-Antiseize compound would work & stay better,,,but I only use it on the backside of rear parking brake shoes & wheel studs,,,not on the actual disc brake pad ears,,,as they will slide on the stainless snap in hardware.....as Rusty mentioned-too much can cause problems. Rusty likes this. __________________ MazWorx built long block \| FI-TT-100 Stage 2.75 \| IPT built 7A/T http://www.the370z.com/members-370z-...s-musings.html

06-15-2018, 10:03 AM	#8 (permalink)
Hotrodz A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: NW, AZ Posts: 9,330 Drives: 10 Nissan 370z Nismo Rep Power: 2684385	I use the purple stuff with no problems. You got to quit sniffing it before applying it! Rusty and jchammond like this. __________________ *Fast Intentions TT Installed and Tuned by Seb at SpecialtyZ 610whp 560tq:\|Fast Intentions 3" TT-TDX*\|SpecialtyZ/Fast Intentions 72 Row Oil Cooler\|SZ 6 Puck Clutch & Flywheel\|3GsCustoms\|Z1\|Wavetrac\|Hotchkis\|Whiteline \|Blitz\|Fortune Auto 500\|Fujimura\|SPL\|H&R\|TK\|TWM\|RPM Rollbar\|Sparco\|Next Level Performance\|TrackSpec\|AeroFlow Dynamics\|Pioneer\|

06-15-2018, 01:54 AM	#3 (permalink)
Swindler Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Central CA Age: 35 Posts: 219 Drives: 2014 370Z PW Manual Rep Power: 12	Awesome thanks! I took for a test drive and sounds like there is a low grinding sound or something. Not really loud but I can feel and hear it. But I’m too lazy to take my wheels back off tonight. everything looks good from the outside. I’ll have to check it out on Saturday lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

06-15-2018, 07:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
wanker Enthusiast Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: San Diego Posts: 443 Drives: 2011 370Z S/T A7 Rep Power: 2901	Remember with the anti-squeal apply a thin coating and let it cure overnight. That should help reduce the risk of it fouling the piston. Hotrodz likes this.

06-15-2018, 08:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
Swindler Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Central CA Age: 35 Posts: 219 Drives: 2014 370Z PW Manual Rep Power: 12	Thanks for all the advice I appreciate it! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

06-15-2018, 11:00 PM	#12 (permalink)
SouthArk370Z Premium Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: South Arkansas Posts: 8,435 Drives: 2014 Challenger Rep Power: 324198	I heard the reason brake grease is used on disc brakes is that drum brakes require it (where shoes rub against backing plate) so most mechanics already had it in their toolbox when discs came along. Something was needed to "glue" shims, brake grease does a good job, why not use it. Not sure it's true, but it sounded good when I heard it. Hotrodz likes this. __________________ Steering Lock Links - Search The370Z Bookmarklet - FSM @ NICOclub Mankind has progressed past the need for war but we haven't evolved that far. - NachoMahma

06-16-2018, 05:26 PM	#13 (permalink)
Swindler Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Central CA Age: 35 Posts: 219 Drives: 2014 370Z PW Manual Rep Power: 12	Oh god, guys.... I did the most idiotic thing ever. So I kept dropping my hair pin clip in there and having to take all the hardware and the inboard pad back out to keep retrieving it, in my frustration the last time I just found out I put the pad in backwardsand that’s the Grinding I heard on my test drive down the street. Anyway. My question is will it be ok still??? it seems like there isnt any damage to the rotor besides being greased up. But I am gonna take it off now to check it out and take some pics for you guys. If I need to replace do I need to replace all my pads and rotors on each wheel now if I need to replace my rotor and pad on my one wheel? The little latch on the shim is bent slightly so I may need to replace that at least if I can’t bend it back cuz it won’t stay in place. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

06-16-2018, 05:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
Spooler A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ga Posts: 13,834 Drives: 2013 Nismo 370z Rep Power: 2684392	It appears you didn't go hard enough to have excessive damage. Flip it around and see what happens after cleaning all of the grease off of the rotor.

06-16-2018, 05:43 PM	#15 (permalink)
Swindler Base Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Central CA Age: 35 Posts: 219 Drives: 2014 370Z PW Manual Rep Power: 12	Thanks for the positive responseI am working on getting the caliper off now lol Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

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