Disconnecting Rear Sway Bar

240se · 04-14-2018, 11:36 AM

I want to temporarily disconnect my rear sway bar. I was thinking about just removing one of the end links but the bar ends are close to the camber arms and I am worried they might contact with suspension travel. What have other people done to disconnect the rear bar?

SouthArk370Z · 04-14-2018, 11:39 AM

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1st · 04-14-2018, 12:12 PM

Why do you want to disconnect it for?

240se · 04-14-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1st

Why do you want to disconnect it for?

Suspension tuning, less oversteer and I want to get a feel for how it handles without the rear bar. I have done autoxes in the rain and it was too loose and it would be nice to have a quick way to change the balance.

echoshotz · 04-14-2018, 01:42 PM

A lot of guys on the track remove the rear bar, helps tremendously for putting down power on corner exit. I have thought about doing it as well but just haven't gotten around to it. When I do, I plan to leave as little evidence of it as I can, rather than just unbolting a side from the end links

Rusty · 04-14-2018, 03:13 PM

A lot of the trackrats don't run a rear bar at all.

gomer_110 · 04-14-2018, 05:53 PM

I ran 1-2 seasons of autox with just an endlink disconnected. Nothing bad happened. I've since removed the bar altogether. I do have 900 lb/in springs in the rear so my suspension travel may not be identical to yours.

Once you go no rear bar you'll never go back.

240se · 04-14-2018, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gomer_110

I ran 1-2 seasons of autox with just an endlink disconnected. Nothing bad happened. I've since removed the bar altogether. I do have 900 lb/in springs in the rear so my suspension travel may not be identical to yours.

Once you go no rear bar you'll never go back.

I really want to try it but there is less than .5" clearance and I'm on stock sport springs. I may wrap some electrical tape on the camber arm and see if it gets rubbed.

gomer_110 · 04-14-2018, 07:13 PM

Didn't remember it being that close on mine but then again it's been awhile since I've had a rear bar installed.

axmea? · 04-14-2018, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 240se

I want to temporarily disconnect my rear sway bar. I was thinking about just removing one of the end links but the bar ends are close to the camber arms and I am worried they might contact with suspension travel. What have other people done to disconnect the rear bar?

You also need to take the muffler off.

240se · 04-15-2018, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by axmea?

You also need to take the muffler off.

To remove the bar I think I need to disconnect the muffler and the X brace which is why I want an easier way to temporarily disable it like removing one of the end links.

DIY: Sway bar installation (rear)

Hotrodz · 04-16-2018, 09:21 AM

I just removed the passenger side end link on mine and I have had no issues on the track.

240se · 04-16-2018, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotrodz

I just removed the passenger side end link on mine and I have had no issues on the track.

So two people have removed one end link and no problems. That's good enough for me to give it a try.

Thanks

240se · 05-29-2018, 02:55 PM

So I did remove the passenger side end link and wrapped the bar with blue painters tape so I could tell if it was rubbing. I drove it for a week and felt or heard nothing to indicate it was contacting the camber arm but when I looked at the painters tape it had been rubbed off in a spot. I do have a soft suspension setup with stock sport/base springs, Konis set to almost full soft at the rear and 50% at the front and a Eibach front bar. It seemed to only lightly rub and may not rub with stiffer springs or shock settings.

Regardless, I could feed in much more throttle exiting turns and I felt that even 1st gear traction accelerating in a straight line was better. I put the end link back on but if I go with stiffer springs in the future or find myself at a rainy track day I may pull it off again.

Hotrodz · 05-29-2018, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 240se

So I did remove the passenger side end link and wrapped the bar with blue painters tape so I could tell if it was rubbing. I drove it for a week and felt or heard nothing to indicate it was contacting the camber arm but when I looked at the painters tape it had been rubbed off in a spot. I do have a soft suspension setup with stock sport/base springs, Konis set to almost full soft at the rear and 50% at the front and a Eibach front bar. It seemed to only lightly rub and may not rub with stiffer springs or shock settings.

Regardless, I could feed in much more throttle exiting turns and I felt that even 1st gear traction accelerating in a straight line was better. I put the end link back on but if I go with stiffer springs in the future or find myself at a rainy track day I may pull it off again.

If you go with stiffer springs you definitely want to keep it off. I drove the whole week at ZDAYZ with the TC off. I thought I set it to be on at the lower end, but when I checked it was totally off so I left it. That was after driving in the wet on Toyo r888. Call me crazy! Lol

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04-14-2018, 11:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
240se Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: VA Posts: 260 Drives: Gunmetal 12' Rep Power: 12	Disconnecting Rear Sway Bar I want to temporarily disconnect my rear sway bar. I was thinking about just removing one of the end links but the bar ends are close to the camber arms and I am worried they might contact with suspension travel. What have other people done to disconnect the rear bar?

04-14-2018, 11:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
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echoshotz Base Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 218 Drives: 14 Nismo Rep Power: 73	A lot of guys on the track remove the rear bar, helps tremendously for putting down power on corner exit. I have thought about doing it as well but just haven't gotten around to it. When I do, I plan to leave as little evidence of it as I can, rather than just unbolting a side from the end links Eagle and ZontheRocks like this. __________________ 2014 Solid Red Nismo 370z Motordyne\|Synergy Composites\|Stance Suspension\|Recaro\|RJM\|EVOR

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gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	I ran 1-2 seasons of autox with just an endlink disconnected. Nothing bad happened. I've since removed the bar altogether. I do have 900 lb/in springs in the rear so my suspension travel may not be identical to yours. Once you go no rear bar you'll never go back. Eagle and Hotrodz like this. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock Last edited by gomer_110; 04-14-2018 at 05:56 PM.

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04-14-2018, 07:13 PM	#9 (permalink)
gomer_110 A True Z Fanatic Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Perrysburg, OH Posts: 17,992 Drives: '11 Nismo #528 GM Rep Power: 36941	Didn't remember it being that close on mine but then again it's been awhile since I've had a rear bar installed. __________________ '11 370Z Nismo #528 Fast Intentions \| Stillen \| Motordyne \| Uprev \| CSF \| Zspeed \| Z1 Motorsports \| AST \| Swift \| SPC \| SPL \| Whiteline \| Hotchkis \| Bride \| Schroth \| Robispec \| Cusco \| Nismo \| Volk \| Forgestar \| Hoosier \| RJM '17 Titan Bone Stock

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05-29-2018, 02:55 PM	#14 (permalink)
240se Enthusiast Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: VA Posts: 260 Drives: Gunmetal 12' Rep Power: 12	So I did remove the passenger side end link and wrapped the bar with blue painters tape so I could tell if it was rubbing. I drove it for a week and felt or heard nothing to indicate it was contacting the camber arm but when I looked at the painters tape it had been rubbed off in a spot. I do have a soft suspension setup with stock sport/base springs, Konis set to almost full soft at the rear and 50% at the front and a Eibach front bar. It seemed to only lightly rub and may not rub with stiffer springs or shock settings. Regardless, I could feed in much more throttle exiting turns and I felt that even 1st gear traction accelerating in a straight line was better. I put the end link back on but if I go with stiffer springs in the future or find myself at a rainy track day I may pull it off again. Hotrodz likes this.

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