Akebono brakes cannot be rebuilt?

madwi · 07-21-2017, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

One foreman had a bicycle air pump painted bright yellow, with the words "SUNSHINE PUMP" on it. Sitting on a shelf in his office. Said it was for us asssholes who tried to blow sunshine up his asss when trying to explain our way out of trouble.

Jhill · 07-21-2017, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Rusty

One foreman had a bicycle air pump painted bright yellow, with the words "SUNSHINE PUMP" on it. Sitting on a shelf in his office. Said it was for us asssholes who tried to blow sunshine up his asss when trying to explain our way out of trouble.

Should probably take that pump to the shop that tried to tell him the calipers aren't rebuildable sound like they are trying to blow some smoke up somewhere.

street2soul · 07-21-2017, 09:23 AM

wtf I got lost in this thread LOL

madwi · 07-21-2017, 09:47 AM

My bad.

Jayhovah · 07-21-2017, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by street2soul

wtf I got lost in this thread LOL

Cliffnotes: Yes they are rebuildable according to Rusty who is a reliable source in this community.

Jayhovah · 07-21-2017, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by madwi

Some days I sure miss working in the shop

jokes for days.
Newbie, go to the basement and get some more carbide inserts from storage. Stairs is in the president's office, in his closet is a trap door to the basement. He likes to control the inventory but dont worry anyone can just go in there.

My first job out of college was working on Robbins Air Force Base. One day one of the Air Force One's was parked out in the field. I got all excited about it and my coworkers were encouraging me to go check it out, said they do it all the time when it is there. I started to walk out there and they stopped me.. Told me they used to tell newbies to do that and watch secret service plant them into the concrete as they got close. But eventually they got in trouble so now they just set us up and stop us before we actually go.

Rusty · 07-21-2017, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by madwi

My bad.

Z Runner · 07-21-2017, 01:55 PM

i rebuild mines my self without any "specific guide from nissan" and it worked!

ZeroZeta · 07-21-2017, 05:42 PM

I am working on rebuilding a pair of front Akebono's now. No issues just make sure not to cut corners and follow fsm tq specs.

honestly, I can't remember of ever hearing of any car not having re-buildable calipers. Maybe some exotics?

MaysEffect · 07-21-2017, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ZeroZeta

I am working on rebuilding a pair of front Akebono's now. No issues just make sure not to cut corners and follow fsm tq specs.

honestly, I can't remember of ever hearing of any car not having re-buildable calipers. Maybe some exotics?

This caliper is unusual in the sense it is a 2-piece design with a internal crossover tube. Most 2-piece calipers have external lines. This is the problem with incorrectly disassembling and reassembling them.

ZeroZeta · 07-24-2017, 02:28 PM

Thanks for the info MaysEffect. Makes total sense.

Also here is a pic of the inside of the right caliper and the rebuild kit I am using.

The crossover MaysEffect mentioned is the center hole on the top left.

Jhill · 07-25-2017, 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MaysEffect

This caliper is unusual in the sense it is a 2-piece design with a internal crossover tube. Most 2-piece calipers have external lines. This is the problem with incorrectly disassembling and reassembling them.

This is only an issue as you said if assembled incorrectly. Every single multi piston motorcycle or bike caliper I can think of uses and internal crossover tube. The only reason cars use an external one is bacuse the left and right caliper are the same and the crossover tube takes the place of bleeder screws so they can save on manufacturing costs.

MaysEffect · 07-25-2017, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhill

This is only an issue as you said if assembled incorrectly. Every single multi piston motorcycle or bike caliper I can think of uses and internal crossover tube. The only reason cars use an external one is bacuse the left and right caliper are the same and the crossover tube takes the place of bleeder screws so they can save on manufacturing costs.

Most motorcycle calipers are monoblocks nowadays too, so they are not rebuild-able by design. Using external crossover tubes doesn't make the manufacturing cost any cheaper. If anything it's more because its 3 additional parts per caliper assembly.

Brembo and Stoptech crossover tubes range from 15-25 dollars each. An internal design is built into the caliper and has no additional cost, other than additional machining time. But these are cast calipers so the machining time is already reduced.

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street2soul Enthusiast Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Texas Posts: 284 Drives: 13 Nismo Rep Power: 3370	wtf I got lost in this thread LOL Spartan 1771, Rusty and madwi like this.

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Z Runner Enthusiast Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Puerto Rico Posts: 332 Drives: 2016 370Z KAD M Base Rep Power: 27	i rebuild mines my self without any "specific guide from nissan" and it worked! Rusty likes this.

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ZeroZeta Track Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Austin TX Posts: 543 Drives: 2013 Z Rep Power: 13	Thanks for the info MaysEffect. Makes total sense. Also here is a pic of the inside of the right caliper and the rebuild kit I am using. The crossover MaysEffect mentioned is the center hole on the top left. street2soul and MaysEffect like this.

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07-21-2017, 05:42 PM	#24 (permalink)
ZeroZeta Track Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Austin TX Posts: 543 Drives: 2013 Z Rep Power: 13	I am working on rebuilding a pair of front Akebono's now. No issues just make sure not to cut corners and follow fsm tq specs. honestly, I can't remember of ever hearing of any car not having re-buildable calipers. Maybe some exotics?